Would someone mind pasting some results, whether it be practice or qualifying for me? My work seems intent on blocking any site related to F1. However, I can still make my picks.

If one kind soul would throw up some results for me to at least see who's doing what, I'll have a little better clue as to what to pick. Thanks!

 

Friday practice times:
1 Ricardo Zonta (Br) Toyota one minute 25.583 seconds
2 Pedro de la Rosa (Sp) McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.196
3 Juan Pablo Montoya (Col) McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.525
4 Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) McLaren-Mercedes 1:27.274
5 Jenson Button (GB) BAR-Honda 1:27.346
6 Vitantonio Liuzzi (It) Red Bull-Cosworth 1:27.578
7 Fernando Alonso (Sp) Renault, 25, 1:27.579
8 Giancarlo Fisichella (It) Renault, 29, 1:27.673
9 Jarno Trulli (It) Toyota 1:27.964
10 Takuma Sato (Jpn) BAR-Honda 1:28.081
11 Mark Webber (Aus) Williams-BMW 1:28.120
12 David Coulthard (Sco) Red Bull-Cosworth 1:28.235
13 Michael Schumacher (Ger) Ferrari 1:28.293
14 Jacques Villeneuve (Can) Sauber-Petonas 1:28.404
15 Rubens Barrichello (Br) Ferrari 1:28.460
16 Ralf Schumacher (Ger) Toyota 1:28.641
17 Felipe Massa (Br) Sauber-Petronas 1:28.681
18 Christian Klien (Aut) Red Bull-Cosworth 1:28.828
19 Nick Heidfeld (Ger) Williams-BMW 1:28.959
20 Tiago Monteiro (Por) Jordan-Toyota 1:30.626
21 Robert Doornbos (Mon) Jordan-Toyota 1:30.628
22 Christijan Albers (Neth) Minardi-Cosworth 1:30.730
23 Nicolas Kiesa (Den) Jordan-Toyota 1:30.884
24 Narain Karthikeyan (Ind) Jordan-Toyota 1:30.899
25 Enrico Toccacelo (It) Minardi 1:32.813

 

Saturday qualifying...

1 K Raikkonen (McLaren) 1:26.797
2 G Fisichella (Renault)
3 F Alonso (Renault)
4 JP Montoya (McLaren)
5 J Trulli (Toyota)
6 N Heidfeld (Williams)
7 M Webber (Williams)
8 F Massa (Sauber) 1:28.419
9 R Schumacher (Toyota) 1:28.594
10 C Klien (Red Bull) 1:28.963
11 R Barrichello (Ferrari) 1:29.369
12 D Coulthard (Red Bull) 1:29.764
13 J Button (BAR) 1:30.063
14 T Sato (BAR) 1:30.175
15 T Monteiro (Jordan) 1:30.710
16 C Albers (Minardi 1:32.186
17 M Schumacher (Ferrari)
18 J Villeneuve (Sauber)
19 N Karthikeyan (Jordan)
20 R Doornbos (Minardi)

Should be an interesting race tomorrow...

 

Anybody up for racing this morning?

I can't believe how much of the season I’ve missed this year.

 

You're back just in time...no champion yet.

 

Well done Kimi.

 

I turned it on just in time to see M. Schumaker pull a bone head move and end up in the garage. Kimi was pretty dominant.

 

Saunders gears up for $1.5bn Formula 1 bid.
I've only been watching F1 for a short time, so I don't know what this could potentially mean, good or bad. Maybe this would entice the other teams to recondsider the concourse agreement, since it sounds like it would be rewritten completely if this were to go through. Or do you think the other teams will continue with their quest of their own series?

 

Article summary: "The former golden girl of the City, Robin Saunders, is set to return to the limelight with an ambitious $1.5bn (£832m) plan to buy Formula 1.

Saunders, through her private equity firm Clearbrook Capital Partners, has held extensive negotiations with Bernie Ecclestone, the tycoon who has controlled F1 for more than two decades. Saunders aims to pull off a leveraged buyout of the sport, in a scheme that would see the sport's teams eventually owning the franchise."

It goes on from there, but the gist is Saunders (I've never heard of her) wants to be the 75% of F1 that Bernie doesn't own, with a plan that would result in the teams owning F1.

Considering what happened to CART here in the States, I don't know why anyone ever would suggest a racing series be owned by its teams! If you look at successful sports in the US (NASCAR, the NFL, the NBA), they all have a single, powerful league office that controls things. Look at Major League Baseball and IRL/CART to see what happens when you don't have that kind of leadership.

Whether or not F1 with Bernie and Max leading it is equivalent to a NASCAR-level success is debatable, but I don't think a team-owned F1 would work out very well.

 

So if the teams had ownership, what would happen if a new team wanted in? Would everyones share in the ownership then diminish by a percentage? Or would the existing teams vote to include the new team?

 

I don't know who she is either but she is a babe :smile:

 

I don't know. It probably wouldn't be that different than the (still-possible) manufacturer-owned series that everyone other than Ferrari is threatening to form if Bernie is too greedy for their tastes. You'd have BMW, Mercedes, Toyota and Renault as the major shareholders who run things, and the secondary teams still picking up the scraps. The theory would be that everyone would get better scraps.

 

I found most interesting Bernie's rejection last month of the Hutchinson Whampoa offer. This is the Hong Kong (read RED Chinese) company that currently controls both Pacific and Caribbean port facilities of the Panama Canal. They have been linked to corporate espionage of just about anything. Maybe F1 technology is of particular interest to them now.


Do you expect me to talk?

No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!

 

is it just me? or wouldn't mclaren be in a better position if they would have worked on reliability of their engines instead of using kimi as a guinea pig? i' mean, the guy has consistantly been the fastest on the track and they go and put in a new generation engine instead of sticking with what's winning races and making it reliable? i don't get it. someone who know's what they are talking about... PLEASE explain.

regardless it's gonna be a heck of a race tomorrow (uh, today).

 

Italian Grand Prix anyone? :smile:

 

rieccomi...

 

Yes, the IGP is on! Looks like Kimi takes another step back with that tire. It'll be interesting to see how much he makes up.

 

I had the chance to drive the old OLD track and it was so awesome.

 

Whoa! The fact that you were even there is pretty impressive for someone who has never even been to a F1 GP. What kind of car did you do that with?

 

Kimi's moved from 10th after changing out the left rear tire to fourth with eight laps left. At that pace he'll at least get on the podium. Amazing!

 

Now Montoya's left rear tire is doing the same thing but with only 3 laps left.
Can he do it?

 

Montoya holds on with Alonso closing fast but not fast enough. Kimi is the most amazing story starting in 11th, having to make an extra stop b/c of the tire and still comes in 4th! Give him one more lap and he would've been 3rd. Good fun!

 

Kimi basically had the pole with all of that fuel on board

That was amazing.

The MacLaren in his hands is unbeatable if not for such terrible luck

 

This could get good...

 

Another stellar job by Montoya to pip Raikkonen for pole in Belgium...looked for a while like the rain might dash the hopes of the front runners and leave M. Schumacher on pole...but the rain held off.

I love Spa-Francorchamps!