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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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The turning radius of an F1 car isn't small enough for that!
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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Hey, they change the front suspensions so the cars can handle the hairpin at Monaco.....
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Mount some smoke pots under each car, activated by the suspension when the car goes airborne on the hills! Oooohhh, aaahhhh!

Why lookee thar, them cars look jet propelled!
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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Faced with Lombard Street, they'd probably clear the brush and straight-line it.

Re street courses: When the Champ Cars were racing in St. Louis, the drivers uniformly complained about the rough streets, even though they had been freshly paved.

I won 3-day tickets to the '08 Champ Car race here in Houston. No one showed up. There's talk of a race in '09, which is the only way I can redeem the tickets.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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I suppose the only way to run F1 in San Fran and still use the real twisties (like Lombard) would be to swap the regular cars for the karts most of them learned how to drive in.....or maybe Mustangs. F1 drivers racing in Mustangs.....now that sounds like real entertainment! But enough of this levity.

I've seen good street circuits, but not many. Most are either very dangerous or look like racing through concrete canyons lined with lots of armco and ugly fencing, or both. I think Singapore might be one of the good ones. I just hope they don't use the perceived success of Singapore to justify more of them, because I can't see getting many of them right.
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edit: I changed my mind -- forget the Mustangs and make it MINI Coopers!
 

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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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Massa calls for safety car rethink.

Waaaaaah! Luck is part of the game. It would be impossible to remove it from the equasion.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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Massa calls for safety car rethink.

Waaaaaah! Luck is part of the game. It would be impossible to remove it from the equasion.
We're coming up on the 3rd anniversary of a famous example...
 
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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Remind me, please.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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Michael's kablammo near the end of the Japan Grand Prix--had the championship pretty well sewn up until then; Alonso got it.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Plans for the Donington Park redevelopment look interesting.

http://www.grandprix.com/jpeg/misc/d...anoct08-lg.jpg

However, according to this article, still no word on where the $175 million will come from.....
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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Holy crap.

Canadian GP dropped for 2009.

I wonder if track conditions had anything to do with this or if it was because it's the only stop in North America?

This sucks.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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When oh when, will the major manufacturers put their foot down about the schedule! No North American exposure at all now.

Bernie has got to go, or a new series has to spin off.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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F1 is just getting less and less interesting all the time. Meanwhile, sports car racing -- with the ALMS and Speed World Challenge -- is getting better. I just returned from Petit Le Mans where ALMS had a starting field of 38 entries. Not to mention ALMS and Speed/SCCA doesn't hate having fans in attendance.

At this point I feel like the rest of the world can have F1. Good riddance to it from North America.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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I just about have to agree with you about ALMS.

Maybe F1 needs a cap, like other sports have. Mosely might have a point of the sport spending itself out of existence.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gromit801
I just about have to agree with you about ALMS.

Maybe F1 needs a cap, like other sports have. Mosely might have a point of the sport spending itself out of existence.
F1 has more problems than just cost. It's not very fan friendly, it's overly political, application of the rules is ambiguous and uneven, and there just isn't a whole lot of action much of the time. It started to become a big bore.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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Bernie has turned it into a TV spectacle.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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Gotta love ALMS!!!! But one reason you see so much action in ALMS is the mixture of classes all on the track at the same time. May be they should run F1 and GP2 together.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kurvhugr
Gotta love ALMS!!!! But one reason you see so much action in ALMS is the mixture of classes all on the track at the same time. May be they should run F1 and GP2 together.
But there has been some great racing battles within classes also: Audi vs. Peugeot in LMP1, Porsche vs. Acura in LMP2, and Porsche vs. Ferrari in GT2.

Next year GT2 will get the addition of Corvette Racing (moving over from GT1) and one or two teams fielding the BMW M3 GTR. Two of the Acura teams will move up from LMP2 to LMP1. GT1 will effectively disappear, but the remaining three classes will all be very strong and competitive.

I can't wait for Sebring.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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Screw F1 on SPEED. Give us the John Cooper Challenge!
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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All true, and I'm definitely looking forward to next season. But you can't deny that the disparate classes make things interesting.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Gromit801
Screw F1 on SPEED. Give us the John Cooper Challenge!
What's more likely is we'll see F1 preempted for practice sessions for some NASCAR feeder series no sober person cares about. They already do that for supplemental F1 programming. Put me down for "Speed Channel Sucks."

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All true, and I'm definitely looking forward to next season. But you can't deny that the disparate classes make things interesting.
I agree. Managing slower/faster traffic adds a terrific component to the racing. It's the sports car way.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 01:31 AM
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Over in the RSR motorsports thead there is mention of more ST class coverage for the Koni series, so hopefully we'll get more sports car coverage in general on speed next year.

I think that the regenerative breaking is our best hope to make F1 racing more interesting in the near future. Experience in the field leans toward the larger manufactures, but if someone can turn it into a real advantage it would probably change the field considerably. Not to mention, it would be really nice to have the technology on our own cars eventually, if applied in the same manner =)
 
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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Reality check: SPEED will fill empty time with NASCRAP.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Gromit801
Reality check: SPEED will fill empty time with NASCRAP.
Correction:
Reality check: SPEED will preempt real race programming with NASCRAP.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 08:04 AM
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SPEED's definition of empty time: Anything NOT already NASCRAP.
 
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