Any Recs for 11 JCW Intercooler?
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I am by no means an expert on this, I have been buying books, reading, and researching to understand how the whole system works. A bigger intercooler won't by itself increase HP. Same for a high flow intake, de-cat downpipe, or bigger exhaust. The ECU is "load" based, meaning it is looking at the mass of air flowing through the engine. It has a load target based on engine RPM and throttle position. So without changing the target load, you won't get any increase in performance.
What the bigger intercooler will do for you is keep the temperature of the intake charge significantly lower so that you get the same mass of air with lower boost pressure, reduce the chance of knock, and the ECU can keep the timing more advanced for better power. So the timing advance will theoretically give you a bit more power for a given airflow rate but in datalogging I have done so far I haven't seen it. I did log an astounding drop in intake temp, from 50C above ambient with the stock I/C to 9C with the Wagner. The theoretical downside to a bigger intercooler is boost will be slower to build because of the increased volume downstream of the turbo, but again I haven't seen any difference.
A tune will be able to take advantage of the cooler intake temps from the bigger intercooler so mainly you're getting ready for a tune.
What the bigger intercooler will do for you is keep the temperature of the intake charge significantly lower so that you get the same mass of air with lower boost pressure, reduce the chance of knock, and the ECU can keep the timing more advanced for better power. So the timing advance will theoretically give you a bit more power for a given airflow rate but in datalogging I have done so far I haven't seen it. I did log an astounding drop in intake temp, from 50C above ambient with the stock I/C to 9C with the Wagner. The theoretical downside to a bigger intercooler is boost will be slower to build because of the increased volume downstream of the turbo, but again I haven't seen any difference.
A tune will be able to take advantage of the cooler intake temps from the bigger intercooler so mainly you're getting ready for a tune.
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I would not go cheap on a new turbo but an IC is just cooling fins, so long as it flows, cools and does not restric I can't see the new designs being better enough warrant the $$
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It's not live on our site, but we do sell the Forge Intercooler for your vehicle for $720. If you're interested you can give our sales department a call at 888.280.779 as they can go over specifics. Part #FMS-FMINTR56 Forge products are great!
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These are NOT downsides you need to be concerned with as we've been using them for years on the street and on the track and these are not issues as the cooling system will work fine even with the intercooler in front of it.
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