Additional gauges for JCW
Additional gauges for JCW
This was at the bottom of the Mini JCW Cabrio Press Release
New on the MINI and MINI Clubman: additional John Cooper Works instruments. The John Cooper Works performance components give even greater emphasis to the sporting character of every MINI highlighted also through the car’s looks. The new, additional John Cooper Works instruments, now available on both the MINI and MINI Clubman are a particularly attractive addition to the range.
This option allows full integration of up to two circular instruments in the immediate vicinity of the rev counter, with the additional instruments finished in the style of a sports car cockpit coming in special MINI design and blending perfectly with the interior of the car. With their anthracite-colored faces, they add further appeal to the sporting character of the cockpit.
Here the discerning customer has the choice of three different analogue instruments, up to two of which may be integrated to the right and left of the rev counter, directly in the driver’s field of vision. The coolant temperature gauge, for example, gives the driver clear information on the engine’s current running conditions, enabling him to monitor the process of warming up the engine and gauge his style of motoring precisely to current conditions.
The relative torque indicator permanently informs the driver on the engine’s load condition, showing current torque on the crankshaft relative to the maximum torque available. Proceeding from this information, the driver will find it much easier to choose the ideal gear for dynamic acceleration at all times.
On the MINI Cooper S, the MINI John Cooper Works, the MINI Cooper S Clubman and the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman the driver is additionally informed on the current operation of the Overboost function.

All MINIs may also be fitted with a lateral acceleration indicator providing information on centrifugal forces in a bend and on winding roads.
The additional John Cooper Works instruments are an ideal opportunity to further highlight the sporting character of the MINI and the MINI Clubman, raising driving pleasure to an even higher level. In their design and quality, the additional instruments meet all the high standards of the BMW Group. They are sold and fitted by MINI dealers within the MINI network worldwide.
New on the MINI and MINI Clubman: additional John Cooper Works instruments. The John Cooper Works performance components give even greater emphasis to the sporting character of every MINI highlighted also through the car’s looks. The new, additional John Cooper Works instruments, now available on both the MINI and MINI Clubman are a particularly attractive addition to the range.
This option allows full integration of up to two circular instruments in the immediate vicinity of the rev counter, with the additional instruments finished in the style of a sports car cockpit coming in special MINI design and blending perfectly with the interior of the car. With their anthracite-colored faces, they add further appeal to the sporting character of the cockpit.
Here the discerning customer has the choice of three different analogue instruments, up to two of which may be integrated to the right and left of the rev counter, directly in the driver’s field of vision. The coolant temperature gauge, for example, gives the driver clear information on the engine’s current running conditions, enabling him to monitor the process of warming up the engine and gauge his style of motoring precisely to current conditions.
The relative torque indicator permanently informs the driver on the engine’s load condition, showing current torque on the crankshaft relative to the maximum torque available. Proceeding from this information, the driver will find it much easier to choose the ideal gear for dynamic acceleration at all times.
On the MINI Cooper S, the MINI John Cooper Works, the MINI Cooper S Clubman and the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman the driver is additionally informed on the current operation of the Overboost function.

All MINIs may also be fitted with a lateral acceleration indicator providing information on centrifugal forces in a bend and on winding roads.
The additional John Cooper Works instruments are an ideal opportunity to further highlight the sporting character of the MINI and the MINI Clubman, raising driving pleasure to an even higher level. In their design and quality, the additional instruments meet all the high standards of the BMW Group. They are sold and fitted by MINI dealers within the MINI network worldwide.
and just to clarify, the 3 gauge options are
Temp Gauge
Relative Torque Gauge
Lateral G guage
And the over boost gauge will be separate from those 3?
I hope if I don't get the temp gauge I can still check it on the computer
Temp Gauge
Relative Torque Gauge
Lateral G guage
And the over boost gauge will be separate from those 3?
I hope if I don't get the temp gauge I can still check it on the computer
Last edited by Dan9874123; Feb 11, 2009 at 08:18 AM.
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The press release makes it sound like these gauges are available for all Minis including the base model Cooper. I wonder if they are compatible with say a 2007 MC R56? I don't see why not, my guess is they just tie into the computer with a gauge that reads out in analog fashion. I was going to go the scan gauge II route for a coolant temperature, but would rather do one of these if dealer installed.
I'll add. I'm hoping the 'pods' to be modular enough so that after market makers can create gauges to fit into that housing to meter things that may interest us other than what Mini has chosen to offer. If it is modular enough I expect it to happen.
Other then the coolant gauge these seem more like "gee-whiz" gauges. How about something useful like oil pressure/oil temp. I'd like to get my car on the track this Spring, but cannot even fathom going out there without something telling me what the "engine" is doing, I'd like to know what Oil pressure, coolant temp, etc is doing before the motor goes "boom".
Other then the coolant gauge these seem more like "gee-whiz" gauges. How about something useful like oil pressure/oil temp. I'd like to get my car on the track this Spring, but cannot even fathom going out there without something telling me what the "engine" is doing, I'd like to know what Oil pressure, coolant temp, etc is doing before the motor goes "boom". 

http://www.fastmini.net/plxdmgasy.html
Yea, I looked at scanguage, it would be OK for the track, but not very attractive, for everyday use, I was looking for something that looked a little more integrated. These aren't to bad if I used an aftermarket pod adapter, but $1K for gauges (including installation) is a little steep.
http://www.fastmini.net/plxdmgasy.html
http://www.fastmini.net/plxdmgasy.html
If you look at the picture in the release, the gauge on the left appears to be Mini's relative torque gauge, overboost would be indicated by the blue section representing 100-110% torque :P
that's just a stupid gauge, Mini obviously doesn't want anyone being able to see how much boost their car's making and thus being unable to compare between 2 different Mini's or customers being able to gauge a drop or lack of performance, etc
that's just a stupid gauge, Mini obviously doesn't want anyone being able to see how much boost their car's making and thus being unable to compare between 2 different Mini's or customers being able to gauge a drop or lack of performance, etc
I want a coolant temp gauge, that alone is worth it. I would also like an oil temp gauge, but I bet you it would be a dummy gauge based off of load, coolant temp and revs... so probably not to accurate. I think the temp and load gauge would be ok.
That lateral G gauge isn't really worth it.
That lateral G gauge isn't really worth it.
Other then the coolant gauge these seem more like "gee-whiz" gauges. How about something useful like oil pressure/oil temp. I'd like to get my car on the track this Spring, but cannot even fathom going out there without something telling me what the "engine" is doing, I'd like to know what Oil pressure, coolant temp, etc is doing before the motor goes "boom". 

motoringfile.com says that they are officially being released as a retrofit kit available this spring.
I asked my dealer yesterday and he had no idea what they were yet. Haha, he heard about them from me.
I would go with the coolant gauge and maybe relative torque just to balance out the dash. There is a .pdf file for the install on that site, looks like a nice clean plug-and-play device, which is why I personally would go with these over something aftermarket. It's ridiculous that they won't just make boost and oil gauges; if you look at the controller settings in the instruction manual, it looks like these are the only 3 they plan on releasing.
See here:
http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/03/...retro-fit-kit/
I asked my dealer yesterday and he had no idea what they were yet. Haha, he heard about them from me.
I would go with the coolant gauge and maybe relative torque just to balance out the dash. There is a .pdf file for the install on that site, looks like a nice clean plug-and-play device, which is why I personally would go with these over something aftermarket. It's ridiculous that they won't just make boost and oil gauges; if you look at the controller settings in the instruction manual, it looks like these are the only 3 they plan on releasing.
See here:
http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/03/...retro-fit-kit/




