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Does anyone know if we rotate tires then will the sensors be checking the correct tire correspondingly? I've not pay attention to this before, time to see if anyone knows.
Does anyone know if we rotate tires then will the sensors be checking the correct tire correspondingly? I've not pay attention to this before, time to see if anyone knows.
After resetting it knows you moved them.
I rotate between 2500-5000.
BMW recommends no tire rotations on their BMW cars. Do not know if that philosophy carries over to Mini or not. The old rule of thumb was do a tire rotation with each oil change (of course that was back in the days when oil was changed every 2500-3K miles.. I suppose you could follow that guidance or perhaps change it to every 5K miles. Most tire makers recommend a re-balance with each rotation. type of rotation will depend on whether your tires a uni-directional or not. It was the routine that before uni-directional, tires were cross swapped, with uni-directional backs and fronts are swapped one for one..
For the TPMS, many cars need a tool to reset the tires (not sure about the Mini - call the dealer to verify). Simply doing a reset will not do the job properly if the the TPMS system isn't set up . If Tire rotations are done at the dealership (rotation, re-balance, they will properly reset the TPMS as a part of their service). You can buy a rest tool if you do the rotations yourself..
BMW recommends no tire rotations on their BMW cars. Do not know if that philosophy carries over to Mini or not. The old rule of thumb was do a tire rotation with each oil change (of course that was back in the days when oil was changed every 2500-3K miles.. I suppose you could follow that guidance or perhaps change it to every 5K miles. Most tire makers recommend a re-balance with each rotation. type of rotation will depend on whether your tires a uni-directional or not. It was the routine that before uni-directional, tires were cross swapped, with uni-directional backs and fronts are swapped one for one..
For the TPMS, many cars need a tool to reset the tires (not sure about the Mini - call the dealer to verify). Simply doing a reset will not do the job properly if the the TPMS system isn't set up . If Tire rotations are done at the dealership (rotation, re-balance, they will properly reset the TPMS as a part of their service). You can buy a rest tool if you do the rotations yourself..
Interesting! So I bough my car with <20K on it and front tires had at least 60% or more tread left and rear with at least 50. Since I drive 6K a year and I had my MCS for a year, I haven't rotated them yet as front tires are still better than rear. I will ask my dealer how and what do they recommend but I personally did rotate tires every 5K or Year on my other Japanese vehicles. So you think if tires are rotated then TPMS sensors might get confused and need to be reset?
Interesting! So I bough my car with <20K on it and front tires had at least 60% or more tread left and rear with at least 50. Since I drive 6K a year and I had my MCS for a year, I haven't rotated them yet as front tires are still better than rear. I will ask my dealer how and what do they recommend but I personally did rotate tires every 5K or Year on my other Japanese vehicles. So you think if tires are rotated then TPMS sensors might get confused and need to be reset?
Can't say for sure with yours (or mine) but the following is provided for your consideration:
Does TPMS need to be reset after tire rotation?
Most TPMS sensors have to be reset using a scan tool whenever the tires are rotated and some of them even have to be reset even when you are just putting air in the tire. Starting in 2008 the government requires that car manufacturers use this system on their cars.
Based on what you say, it appears your tires were rotated at least once otherwise you'd likely see more wear on the fronts than the rears.
FWIW, many recommend than if you have not rotated your tires for many many miles or never (as an example) , you may be better off leaving them where they are. Rotating tires every 5K miles equalizes wear and will make them last longer as a set. Generally fronts wear out first due to cornering, By swapping them, the more worn fronts will not see as much wear on the rear end and the rear tires (now on the front end) will have more thread. Much depends on how many miles you drive, the type of driving (and driver you are).
for the tpms, many cars need a tool to reset the tires (not sure about the mini - call the dealer to verify). Simply doing a reset will not do the job properly if the the tpms system isn't set up . If tire rotations are done at the dealership (rotation, re-balance, they will properly reset the tpms as a part of their service). You can buy a rest tool if you do the rotations yourself..
Most tpms sensors have to be reset using a scan tool whenever the tires are rotated and some of them even have to be reset even when you are just putting air in the tire. Starting in 2008 the government requires that car manufacturers use this system on their cars.
w.t.f.?
Certainly not true on my 2009 R55 or my
wife’s 2020 F23 or any of my friends’ or
coworkers’ cars that I’ve run across so far.
Can't say for sure with yours (or mine) but the following is provided for your consideration:
Does TPMS need to be reset after tire rotation?
Most TPMS sensors have to be reset using a scan tool whenever the tires are rotated and some of them even have to be reset even when you are just putting air in the tire. Starting in 2008 the government requires that car manufacturers use this system on their cars.
Based on what you say, it appears your tires were rotated at least once otherwise you'd likely see more wear on the fronts than the rears.
FWIW, many recommend than if you have not rotated your tires for many many miles or never (as an example) , you may be better off leaving them where they are. Rotating tires every 5K miles equalizes wear and will make them last longer as a set. Generally fronts wear out first due to cornering, By swapping them, the more worn fronts will not see as much wear on the rear end and the rear tires (now on the front end) will have more thread. Much depends on how many miles you drive, the type of driving (and driver you are).
Hmm. When the time comes I will test tire rotation theory but when I just top off the air in some of the tires, I haven't reset TPMS in the system as when I start driving display shown updated PSI info. Although I might try resetting TPMS today after pumping air. The issue is that front left shows from 2 to 3 PSI less than other wheels. Basically every 3 weeks the reading of that front left gets out of sync. When I connect air pump, it may show more than car display does, so this leads me to believe that maybe front TPMS isn't showing pressure properly, but PSI goes up on that side when I drive for some time. When that front left tire warms up, it adds 2 PSI but at the same time others have gone up too. I told my MINI dealer and they kind of checked the tire pressure but couldn't find any issues. Will ask MINI to replace TPMS if needed.
Channel surfing out of pure boredom this afternoon I stopped for a spell on Last Man Standing reruns. In frustration over something, Mike Baxter announced that he was going to the garage to rotate the tires at 5000 miles. If that's when Mike says they should be rotated, that's good enough for me. I do them at 5K anyway.
Channel surfing out of pure boredom this afternoon I stopped for a spell on Last Man Standing reruns. In frustration over something, Mike Baxter announced that he was going to the garage to rotate the tires at 5000 miles. If that's when Mike says they should be rotated, that's good enough for me. I do them at 5K anyway.
I normally rotate them every 6000 miles or once a year, unless I see uneven wear, then I act accordingly. At least I think it is good habit to do it except where you really don't like tires(RF tire, looking at you!) and want them go fast!
I rotate mine every 5,000 miles. TPMS reset is easy ... just check the manual.
Same here ..... been doing rotations since I bought my first in 2002 .... mash the reset button and done ....
over the years MINI has gone back and forth on the rotation thing ..... my theory is in the beginning they said NO cuz with pre-paid maintenance and extended interval oil changes in the 12,000 mile range a recommended rotation schedule could see owners hitting service for rotations only and this was non desired. Hence "rotations not required or recommended" .... eventually they put limits on what was and was not included in the maintenance .... last time I took the R59 in for an oil change (under pre-paid) the courtesy inspection noted a rotation was recommended! But there would be a charge for this service item which I declined.
here I've copied the words from respective owner's manuals (on line editions)
2002:
Depending on individual operating conditions,
different wear patterns appear on
the front and rear axles. In the interests of
safety and optimized handling characteristics,
a change between the axles is not
recommended.
2007:
The manufacturer of your MINI recommends
that you swap the front wheels with the rear
wheels and vice-versa at intervals of 3,000 to
4,000 miles/5,000 to 7,000 km. This will counter
the varying rates of tire wear at the front and
rear axles, which will have a positive effect on
the handling characteristics of your MINI. The
direction in which the tires rotate should be kept
the same.
2014:
Different wear patterns occur on the front and
rear axles, depending on the individual conditions
of use.
To ensure even wear on the tires, the wheels can be rotated between the axles. Your service
center will be glad to advise you.
After changing the tires, check the tire inflation
pressure and correct it if necessary.
2019:
Different wear patterns can occur on the
front and rear axles depending on individual
driving conditions. The tires can be rotated
in pairs between the axles to achieve even
wear. Further information is available from
a dealer’s service center or another qualified
service center or repair shop. After rotating,
check the tire pressure and correct,
if needed.
I mark tire locations when I take them
off twice a year to change between
summer and winter wheels/tires.
I rotate them when I put them back
on 5-7 months later.
Rotating at 5K miles works for me. Even wear and the tires all get replaced at the same time.
There have been comments in this thread about better tread on the front tires. Actually you want the better tread on the rear tires, contrary to popular opinion. If replacing 2 tires, all good tire shops will insist on putting them on the rear, for rear, front, and all wheel drive cars. People think you want better tread on the fronts for better drive traction (in front wheel drive cars) and better steering grip, but if significantly better tread is on the fronts, you risk the lesser tread rear tires losing grip, in either high speed, or wet or snow low traction situations and the rear end of the car coming around in a spin. A spin is bad, difficult to correct and can lead to a rollover or bad crash. Better to have the front tires slip and the car understeers - better chance of correcting understeer and possibly a lesser crash. Better to plow into something with the front end than have a pole t bone your drivers door in a spin. New tires always go on the back. If after a rotation the fronts have slightly better tread than the rears, you're probably OK. If a tire shop puts new tires on the front and you spin and crash, the tire shop will lose the lawsuit.
Rotating at 5K miles works for me. Even wear and the tires all get replaced at the same time.
There have been comments in this thread about better tread on the front tires. Actually you want the better tread on the rear tires, contrary to popular opinion. If replacing 2 tires, all good tire shops will insist on putting them on the rear, for rear, front, and all wheel drive cars. People think you want better tread on the fronts for better drive traction (in front wheel drive cars) and better steering grip, but if significantly better tread is on the fronts, you risk the lesser tread rear tires losing grip, in either high speed, or wet or snow low traction situations and the rear end of the car coming around in a spin. A spin is bad, difficult to correct and can lead to a rollover or bad crash. Better to have the front tires slip and the car understeers - better chance of correcting understeer and possibly a lesser crash. Better to plow into something with the front end than have a pole t bone your drivers door in a spin. New tires always go on the back. If after a rotation the fronts have slightly better tread than the rears, you're probably OK. If a tire shop puts new tires on the front and you spin and crash, the tire shop will lose the lawsuit.
Hmm, I actually do remember one of the shops wanting to put new tires on the rear but I thought why not front and I don't remember if I requested the shop to install them on front wheels. I guess there is a reason for this. Interesting info!
I was looking at rear tires of Hankook V2s and see that there are small cracks between and on the treads. The front tires don't seem to have "this" amount of small cracks. These tires were produced in spring of 2016 and for some reason already developed cracks. Could it be because they are UHP and other type of tires wouldn't get cracks that early?
I will ask my dealer how and what do they recommend but I personally did rotate tires every 5K or Year on my other Japanese vehicles. So you think if tires are rotated then TPMS sensors might get confused and need to be reset?
