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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 02:41 PM
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Phoenix wrench party?

I just got a new NM 25mm rear sway bar, with new sway bar links. I *think* I can install it, but I'd rather be safe. So, if anyone is familiar with doing this in Phoenix and wouldn't mind helping...

I'm not looking for free, btw, just cheaper than the $700-1000 quoted by my shop. And to be fair, I don't want you to do the work. I really just want you to make sure I don't completely **** up the work, heh.

Anyway, if anyone is interested and available, please message me. I can provide beer and munchies.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 03:59 PM
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Never mind I thought you said Wench party, but then again I think my wife would object to my traveling all the way to Phoenix without her.

I also got crazy quotes for install as well so I skipped it for the time being. If you can't get a party going, you might look for one of those DIY garages where they often will help you out as needed and also have the correct wrenches or wenches?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2018 | 06:44 AM
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lol! Wench party would've been fun, too . As it was, I found a Craigslist mobile mechanic who came to my place. We managed to get the swap done for...$60!!! And, to echo so many others who have swapped out the rear sway bar...the result is amazing!


Unfortunately, I have to jack up the car again this weekend because I don't remember if I re-connected the brake lines
 
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Old Nov 13, 2018 | 01:11 PM
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Way MotorWorks only charged me $100 for labor on my rear bar some yrs back. Only took 'em maybe 30 minutes (or less).
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 08:16 AM
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What difference did you notice with the rear sway bar installed. I'm in the Phoenix area as well.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RetroBoat
What difference did you notice with the rear sway bar installed. I'm in the Phoenix area as well.
The body roll in the rear is pretty much completely eliminated, and the roll from the front seems to be much less as well. This has brought me back to my R56 level of go-kart-ness, which is what I was missing in my 2019 MCS.

Now, if I can just figure out how to permanently disable rev-matching (without having to turn off DSC)....
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 10:30 AM
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What difference did you notice with the rear sway bar installed. I'm in the Phoenix area as well.
There's less understeer for sure. I don't have much body roll with my Coupe (with sport suspension, and very stiffert frame and body than your car), but my friend's R56 had quite a bit when I drove hers with the standard suspension.
 
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What difference did you notice with the rear sway bar installed. I'm in the Phoenix area as well.
There's less understeer for sure. I don't have much body roll with my Coupe (with sport suspension, and way stiffer frame and body than your car), but my friend's R56 had quite a bit when I drove hers with the standard suspension.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 11:31 AM
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Mine doesn't roll either, but has understeer when pushed hard. Sway bars tend to limit suspension travel just wondering if a big difference was felt.

Big Newt I see you are a AZ guy as well.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 07:03 AM
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I honestly can't tell if there is a difference with the suspension because I replaced the DDC with some custom coilovers about a week prior to the sway bar.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 07:50 AM
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I've got KW coilovers on mine with 18" wheels. Wondering if a rear sway bar would do much or not.
 
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Originally Posted by DavidPinAZ
I just got a new NM 25mm rear sway bar, with new sway bar links. I *think* I can install it, but I'd rather be safe. So, if anyone is familiar with doing this in Phoenix and wouldn't mind helping...

I'm not looking for free, btw, just cheaper than the $700-1000 quoted by my shop. And to be fair, I don't want you to do the work. I really just want you to make sure I don't completely **** up the work, heh.

Anyway, if anyone is interested and available, please message me. I can provide beer and munchies.
I will be in Scottsdale Arizona this weekend to vist and do some Jeep trails.
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RetroBoat
I've got KW coilovers on mine with 18" wheels. Wondering if a rear sway bar would do much or not.
It does a different thing than coilovers. Apples and oranges.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2018 | 03:49 PM
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I have Two Minis. A 2007 MCS with K Sport coil overs and a 25.5 MM rear sway bar. I autocross with the SCCA with that one here in Phoenix. The Rear Sway bar makes the car lean less in hard cornering and thus controls the cars turns. In autocross the trick to being fast in a Mini is getting the rear to break loose and make the turns more aggressive. The rear Sway Bar helps this. On my 2014 MCS I have stock suspension. I have daily driven the 2007 for 3 years and with the Coil Overs the ride is rather harsh and bumpy. When I turn in driveways sharply I lift a rear tire as well. Fun car. I auto crossed the F56 MCS last month for kicks with the stock set up and was not far off my marks. The F56 is wider and longer wheel base to it is inherently more stable. However a set of K Sport coil overs and a big rear sway bar and the F56 MCS would be much faster in autocross.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2018 | 05:15 PM
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Thanks for the info a follow up info. I bought mine used and didn't know it had a rear sway bar until last Friday. I've never pushed it hard enough to get anything to break loose. Not sure how it would react and didn't want to find out the hard way.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2018 | 06:28 PM
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In autocrossing a mini you dive in deep into a corner brake hard and turn quick breaking the rear end loose to have it quickly follow around the front. It sounds crazy. Bigger sway bars or raised rear tire pressure helps
 
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Old Dec 4, 2018 | 09:23 PM
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No matter what your levels set up is from totally stock to totally set up autocross is a great way to learn your car. I would highly recommend everyone on this board to come out to Arizona motorsports Park in Litchfield Park on Camelback this Sunday and give it a try. You will not regret it and you'll learn a lot about your car.
Www.mindthecones.com
Www.azsolo.com
 
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Old Dec 5, 2018 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sstrickstein
No matter what your levels set up is from totally stock to totally set up autocross is a great way to learn your car. I would highly recommend everyone on this board to come out to Arizona motorsports Park in Litchfield Park on Camelback this Sunday and give it a try. You will not regret it and you'll learn a lot about your car.
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This sounds so awesome!!! I have so many questions, though. Mind if I ask them here?
 
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No matter what your levels set up is from totally stock to totally set up autocross is a great way to learn your car. I would highly recommend everyone on this board to come out to Arizona motorsports Park in Litchfield Park on Camelback this Sunday and give it a try. You will not regret it and you'll learn a lot about your car.
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There is even an event on Saturday for the Tucson folk!
 
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Old Dec 5, 2018 | 08:32 AM
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This sounds so awesome!!! I have so many questions, though. Mind if I ask them here?
Why not ??
 
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Old Dec 5, 2018 | 08:36 AM
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This sounds so awesome!!! I have so many questions, though. Mind if I ask them here?
Sure ask away or PM me
 
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Sure ask away or PM me
If you don't mind, can we do it on this post or start a new one. Others might also be interested and have Q's. I know I am interested
 
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Old Dec 5, 2018 | 12:32 PM
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Awesome, thanks! I’m putting the list together in between meetings...and maybe during them, lol!
 
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Old Dec 5, 2018 | 01:12 PM
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Ok, here’s what I have:

- Where can I get a helmet? Will there be loaner helmets there?

- it looks like it starts at 7p. When should I get there? How long, approximately, will it last? Will the track be lit up with lights?

- do I need to register by Thursday to race? Or can I register there? Same for the SCCA memberships.

- if I have to register before, do I need to know what class I’m in, or will they tell me during the tech inspection?

- how many goes around the cones will there be per driver?

for my MCS, I’ll have a Dinan elite, coil overs, a modified engine mount and the JCW kit. And an aftermarket shift ****.

Thanks for any answers you can help with!!
 
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Old Dec 5, 2018 | 06:58 PM
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The SCCA does have loaner helmets. Registration opens at 7am. Tech looks at several basic safety items(stock cars have no issues). The only problem mods are loud intake or exhaust. There is a 93 dB sound limit tested by track owner. You'll probably run in D street stock novice.
 
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