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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 09:31 AM
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New Clubman AT is the 8-speed

Looking at Mini's configurator for the new Clubman I see that they've introduced BMW's 8-spd auto trans. For the F56 they're still showing the 6-spd. I wonder how long Mini will continue to offer two AT's, and what the noticeable advantages of the 8-spd might be.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Sailorlite
Looking at Mini's configurator for the new Clubman I see that they've introduced BMW's 8-spd auto trans. For the F56 they're still showing the 6-spd. I wonder how long Mini will continue to offer two AT's, and what the noticeable advantages of the 8-spd might be.
I am thinking they will make there way down on or just before the refresh of the F55/56, which is due 2017/18 time frame. I drove a 320i with the 8sp transmission, not bad for the size of the car. Will keep the Clubman MPG up and make it a viable choice, especially with the VW backlash on their diesel engines.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 06:18 PM
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Same transmission from the new 2 Series AT/X1, which I believe is an Aisin unit, and not ZF.

Would make sense for MINI to add it during the refresh of the F56, could not see them doing it before.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 08:13 AM
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8 speed for S version. 6 speed for base. Base clubman is horrible. 0-60 in 8.9 seconds. Over 3000 lbs with 134 horsepower. We were waiting to see if it will work for me. I have a hybrid - I can do 0-60 in 9 seconds and get 45 mpg. Top of it, you add automatic shift and two simiple options like Cold weather package and sport package - you are looking at $28k.

Only way to get clubman is S version but at that price point there are lot more cars to choose from. Base clubman is a huge disappointment.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by chandler_vt
8 speed for S version. 6 speed for base. Base clubman is horrible. 0-60 in 8.9 seconds. Over 3000 lbs with 134 horsepower.
3,000 lbs? That's horrible. Mine's like 2550. Nobody's going to buy the base version. And the new engine in the HB they say makes it as fast as the R53 back in the day.
 

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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by chandler_vt
Only way to get clubman is S version but at that price point there are lot more cars to choose from. Base clubman is a huge disappointment.
I test drove a Base Cooper before I decided on my S, I loved the peppiness of the 3 cyl engine. It had power right away and was right quick. Yes I am not going to win any drag races but for a base model car that engine is fantastic if you want to get it. For those that need more power then you need to go to the S or JCW models. Best part of the newer 3 cyl engines are they are tune-able very easily and you can get your HP and Torque up to S levels.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LordWinslow
I test drove a Base Cooper before I decided on my S, I loved the peppiness of the 3 cyl engine. It had power right away and was right quick. Yes I am not going to win any drag races but for a base model car that engine is fantastic if you want to get it. For those that need more power then you need to go to the S or JCW models. Best part of the newer 3 cyl engines are they are tune-able very easily and you can get your HP and Torque up to S levels.
Base cooper is 2600 lbs. I drove it too and loved it. I drove the 4 door version which is little heavier but still nimble. 2 dr can do 0-60 in 7.3 seconds thats as fast as a Forester turbo or my NX200t. Base clubman is a different beast. Over 3000lbs and 8.9 seconds for 0-60! Although I should reserve my judgement until I drive it but thats pretty bad for a "Mini". The only reason you would buy Clubman is if you want to have cargo space or have dogs/family - so more room. Its going to be lethargic if you have two people in it. They probably put in the base option just to say "Starting at $24k". Its safe to assume "real" clubman starts at $28k and will quickly cross $33k with few options. Tough sell at that price.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2015 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chandler_vt
Base cooper is 2600 lbs. I drove it too and loved it. I drove the 4 door version which is little heavier but still nimble. .
The 4 door's 0-60 is actually a tenth of a second quicker than the 2 door, despite the added weight. 6.3 seconds as opposed to 6.4

I have absolutely no idea why. Maybe the longer wheelbase helps with traction?
 
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