My wife was driving to work she went to shift from first to second the car died the dash displayed a drivetrain malfunction then threw a cel in the middle of rush hour . She was able to get it restarted the cel stayed on she parked the car went to work. When she started the car to drive home the cel was gone we decided to take it to the dealer to find out what was wrong they found a low voltage dsc code and a few other codes but did not have a resolution so they are keeping it until Monday in order to get an engineer to look into the issue so we have an f55 loaner for the weekend. 😢 I must say I am very impressed with how the dealer is handling everything they have been absolutely amazing looking forward to the bugs being worked out for the MOTD trip in a few weeks 😀

 

same thing happened to me several times. mini took no responsibility for the problem and blamed it all on the bms stage1 tuner. i did some data logging with terry at bms and he cured my problems with new firmware.

 

I am waiting for the BMS B46 firmware before I put the tuner back in Terry said it would be released soon so I ordered the BMS cable and will set up my laptop so as soon as I get it it will be reinstalled. How has yours been since the firmware ? What mods do you have besides the tuner ?

 

k&n filter 2ndcat reso and muffler delete. weight reduction. good gas, waiting for my catless downpipe from mquebed for 7 weeks now. getting some bridgestone potenzas on the front this week.

 

I have the following BMS tuner 2nd cat and muffler delete milltek downpipe back exhaust craven speed under car chassis braces nm short shifter adaptor ....I want to order a downpipe after I get back from MOTD ......

 

I'd be interested to know what their diagnosis is. We've had a few customers with the Stage1 on the B46 report fault codes which I think we've corrected via the firmware, although it can be difficult to tell for sure, since we also get reports of fault codes without the tuner installed, and few have the diagnostic tools to read out the fault codes.

PS. We've posted the firmware and tuning interface here, and will post all future B38 & B48 software updates to this thread: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29995

 

Do you have a BMS tuner installed as others ??

 

Terry is that the updated firmware listed ?

 

Yes the latest firmware is posted. I'm not always active on the forums so be sure to email me or our tech support department if you need any assistance with B46 codes. We're anxious to put this one to bed.

 

odd thread isn't it?

 

Am I reading this wrong? Let's see: a MINI owner installs aftermarket hardware to increase the power of his car and the dealer says that he notices that someone has played with the car's program and they will not fix the problem caused by the aftermarket change.
I am trying to think of a reason that the dealer or manufacturer would even help this guy.

 

I will update this thread once I get more info from the dealer they are aware I have a modifications to the car. They have also been very helpful. There have been a handful of Minis that needed software updates etc.. Some of which have no modifications at all.

 

Not everybody in the world is a complete *******, or we wouldn't be able to differentiate.

I expect the dealer and manufacturer to do what they can for their customers. If your expectations are lower, you're living a terrible existence.

They're going to have lots of people with this, similar or related issues, so it would be a good idea to try to solve it and build a knowledge base.

The customer and the aftermarket community would be put off if the manufacturer decided they would kill that business with unrelenting policies. The enthusiast community would leave enmasse.

There's a chance that the problem was exposed by the aftermarket product or it was unrelated.

If the problem is potentially dangerous they could leave themselves exposed to a lawsuit for doing nothing about it.

Having a broader variation of systems in cars can lead to solutions for future problems. Perhaps improved airflow will have unforseen benefits on wear or cleaning.

 

Well hell I was about to order that module to have by the dragon...guess I'll wait now. ARRRGGG

 

just order the laptop cables at the same time to update firmware or see if terry can do it to the stage1 for you.

 

Ahh that's a good idea.

 

Get ready because the manufacturers are getting ready to kill off the after market remap community. And, while I have questions, playing with computers on modern cars can have many consequences.

 

How are manufacturers going to kill custom tunes/remaps? They have tried the best so far and have failed. It took awhile and may failed to crack the N18 engines ECU's, but someone figured it out eventually.

 

Manufacturers are working on legislation that would allow them to own the program in your car. Believe me, its not a stretch.
I am a retired homebuilder and have had many problems from buyers hiring flakes to remodel a home I sold and have the homeowner come back trying to get me to fix problems related to the remodel. i.e. flaky contractor nails a wood trellace to a stucco wall and the homeowner comes bact to me for leaks and mold.
Do these aftermarket tuners stand behind their work if there is premature failure of transmissions or other drivetrain parts as a result of abuse of the car owner and the increased horsepower. I bet not and even if they offer warranty, its probably not worth anything, i.e. there was an aftermarket tuner that offered products for Audis ( Stasis ) and they went b.k.
Sorry folks.

 

I believe that the car owner has the ultimate decision whether he's going to tune his/her car or not, owners can waive their rights to any warranties so if something goes wrong its on the owner. It won't happen overnight as you know these things take time. I want legislation to put manufactures responsible for timing chain tensioner issues resulting in complete engine failures and the manufacture at first denial warranty claims at no fault on the owners.

 

Ok so you hop up your car and beat the hell out of it, then you return the car back to stock and sell the car. The car still has some warranty left. The engine blows. How do you settle this situation? Why shouldn't the after market supplier and the owner have some liability? But then, even if they have some responsibility, they have no assets. What's your answer to this situation?

 

I can't relate to your question because my experience in the last 27 years of driving has never had an outcome such as your argument. First I don't think your statement, "beat the hell out it" is fair, I drive very conservatively. Hundreds of millions of people have purchased cars through·out the years and added whatever mod or part they desired to increase power and return it to stock when their ready to sell it, so are you saying we shouldn't be allowed to mod our cars period if we plan to sell it at some point in the future?

I just want to make sure I understand you correctly. I've been modding every one of my cars in the last 27 years, sold it after returning it to stock to friends or family that's still running strong to this day. I think the point your trying to make is unrealistic, but that's just my opinion. People are free to have the car checked out by any Indy auto shop of their choice to make an informed decision, I'm not God so I can't begin to know for sure if my engine with last a long time or a short time. Life is a risk, why should cars be any different?

Will my heart give out at the age of 60 or at 85, I don't know.

 

Well it appears there was a loose connection to one of the sensors not related to the tuner that caused the car to post the drivetrain malfunction warning and shut off while driving. I would also like to add that if the aftermarket part causes the issue the dealers will not cover the repairs that being said they do offer bolt on performance parts at the dealer from intakes to exhaust all of which they will install. I am like many of the other car owners on this forum I have never bought a car that was exactly what I wanted the kid in me says make it yours whether that be louder stereo, exterior upgrades , or performance parts. There was a time any modification caused the dealer to deny warranties whether it caused the issue or not. We can all debate this to no end as there are people on both sides of the fence when it comes to modifications.

 

why are you on this forum?

 

Weird - the guy who joined this forum two months ago is questioning the membership of the guy who's been here seven years. The internet is truly a strange place...