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F55/F56 No Rev Matching from 3rd to 2nd?

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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 03:52 PM
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No Rev Matching from 3rd to 2nd?

Hello, 2015 MCS MT here. I can't find much documentation on the rev matching feature, as if it's a hidden thing... odd. Anyway, I've found that rev matching does not activate from 3rd to 2nd on mine. Is that the case for everyone?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 04:14 PM
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Yes, the 2015 Cooper S does not rev match from 3-2. I asked my lovely dealership to find out why and their response was "this is not a feature"
Not sure wtf that means.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 04:28 PM
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 05:47 PM
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This is by design....you actually could up until fall 2014 builds then they changed the software. All MINIs manufactured after that will not rev match from 3rd to 2nd.

Supposedly, MINI will have a software update in the spring to bring this back.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 12:21 PM
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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by spud92373
As a data point, I just picked up a Nedcar-built Justa manual. It was ordered in November 2014, built in December, received at the dealer in early Feb and picked up last week. I don't know what, if any, software updates were applied at the VDC or dealership.

Mine rev-matches from 3rd to 2nd. The only non-matched downshift is into 1st.
Sounds like it only affects Cooper S models. Apparently this was due to a slight change in the manual transmission tied to the switchover to the B46 engine for 2015.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 08:16 PM
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My Dec.14 build justa does, though seemingly not at low RPMs.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2015 | 09:49 AM
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This only affects the 2015 MCS and reports are that a forthcoming software update will add it back. This is a summary from several previous threads on this forum.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 09:46 AM
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Software Update

Software update due April 2015
 
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Parrothead2488
Software update due April 2015
The people at my dealership know nothing about this. I asked them to contact Mini about it.
I don't think they did because all I was told is that it is "not a feature".

Great customer service! Can't even ask for me.
 

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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 05:55 PM
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Confirmed by mini USA to me.....your dealer should have the update NOW. My dealer called me today to make an appointment.

MINI F56 software (this is called ISTA/P, and the version is 3.55.1)

Go get em......
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 03:55 AM
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I was wondering about this myself. I picked up my S last Thursday and will be coming in for my 2nd visit tomorrow, so I'll see if they can update the software. I don't mind heel/toeing it, but it's nice having the crisp downshift to 3rd coming off the freeway, and I wouldn't mind having 2nd for the canyons.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mkdiehl
Confirmed by mini USA to me.....your dealer should have the update NOW. My dealer called me today to make an appointment.

MINI F56 software (this is called ISTA/P, and the version is 3.55.1)

Go get em......
thanks, I will contact them today.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 05:34 AM
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Had this done yesterday. Works as advertised. Much better.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 07:29 AM
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Geeze fellas, doesn't anyone else experience what I do? I turn off the rev-matching at startup (along with all DSC) just because I autocross where this lot is not helpful.

But on the street, if I am downshifting to an off-ramp or otherwise reducing speed sharply, I find that the auto rev-match produces a slight over-rev which causes the drive train to argue slightly with the brakes on clutch release.

If I am standing the car on its nose and dropping from 5th to 3rd or 4th to 2nd it's actually a bit annoying.

I reckon that's a boundary case, but anyway.

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Old Mar 28, 2015 | 03:37 PM
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after thinking about it i think i like second gear to pull me down to a stop.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 09:21 PM
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I'm taking the car in for some suspension work next week when I return to the states, and I'm hoping to get the FW update while there. I have no frame of reference.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 02:01 PM
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Got the update, BTW. Now I understand the rev matching. I'm so used to the usual method of downshifting without using the engine (disengage clutch, shift down, brake until revs are matched, engage clutch) so it actually took me a bit to notice the engine rev up to match the lower gear. It's actually a pretty nice feature.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mkdiehl
Confirmed by mini USA to me.....your dealer should have the update NOW. My dealer called me today to make an appointment.

MINI F56 software (this is called ISTA/P, and the version is 3.55.1)

Go get em......
Is there a way to check the ISTA/P version without special equipment?
 
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 05:50 AM
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mine's at the dealership now getting this update and some sort of fix for my suspension noise.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 10:46 AM
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Is there a way to check the ISTA/P version without special equipment?
You can check with ESYS if you have a Ethernet-to-OBDII cable
 
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Old Aug 5, 2015 | 04:06 AM
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I've spoken with both my dealer and MINI-USA - neither know anything about the software update mentioned above. Does anyone know of a dealer that has installed this update?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2015 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rlp
I've spoken with both my dealer and MINI-USA - neither know anything about the software update mentioned above. Does anyone know of a dealer that has installed this update?
Mini of Pittsburgh installed the update on mine which was one of the first 2015 cars built (late June/early July 2014).
 
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Old Aug 5, 2015 | 06:48 AM
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Thanks very much - I'll give them a call.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2015 | 09:26 AM
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The other rev matching thread below refers to a software update Ver. "F056 15 03 503". This thread calls for "ISTA/P 3.55.1".

I'm in the midst of this issue now with my dealer and would like to be prepared with the correct update info. Which of the above versions is most applicable to rev matching? Which is likely to make more sense to the dealer? What's the difference between the two?
 
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