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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Trouble with Auto Up Module

I just installed one of the ian cull auto up modules from FES Auto in my 03 S and I can't get it to work properly. I emailed and called FES Auto over the last two days with no reply yet. I'm hoping my troubles are cockpit error and not a problem with the module. Right now the unit acts like it is programming but nothing changes. I hold the lock button down for five seconds and it beeps. I do one quick tap on the drivers window switch down then the passengers and finally release the lock button. The unit then beeps again but the windows work exactly the same as they did before.

I also tried to enable the DSC defeat. I programmed it a 1/2 dozen times before it sort of worked. Now the DSC shuts off when I start the car then three to five minutes later it turns back on.

I can not get the fog light function to work either.

All my controls work just as stock with the module in. That makes me think I at least installed it correctly. Any ideas?
 
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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The circuit may have changed over the years, but when I got mine from Ian five years ago, I had to hold the lock button UP to activate programming mode, not DOWN. Also, I had to double-click the window I wanted to program, not just a single click.

Although, mine didn't beep, so I know *something's* changed since my version came out. On my version, you had to watch an LED to know when you had entered programming mode.

If you want to give them a try, here are the directions I used when installing/programming mine.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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Per the programming cheat sheet, you want to press the window button up, not down.

Scott, the new ones allow double or single click auto up, and have the beep (aka audio confirmation.)
 
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
Per the programming cheat sheet, you want to press the window button up, not down.

Scott, the new ones allow double or single click auto up, and have the beep (aka audio confirmation.)

The beep is a nice touch, so you're not having to watch the LED. The old ones would do single-click auto-up as well, but it was an "undocumented feature", so you had to know the extra programming step in order to activate it.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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Quite different these days, but happy to see it still solving a problem for people
 
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GBMINI
Quite different these days, but happy to see it still solving a problem for people
Ian, your auto-up circuit is still the best mod I ever made to our MINIs. It solves the problem so seamlessly that it feels like it came that way from the factory (as it should have). I forget I have it installed until I get into a MINI that doesn't have it and then I wonder what's wrong.

I just wish we could have talked you into doing something similar for the convertible top
 
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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With the problems FES had when they tried, I'm quite glad I didn't try it - definitely would need to own one for testing! Wonder if the IRS would accept it as a deduction
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 06:16 AM
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Holding the lock button up produces the same results. I tried doing all the combos of clicking up & down and no luck.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 06:31 AM
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"I hold the lock button down for five seconds and it beeps. I do one quick tap on the drivers window switch down"
You original issue was clicking DOWN the window switch to enable.


My original design required that you first enable double click auto-up, before being allowed to enable single click. Perhaps the FES still has that rule.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 07:23 AM
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Did you do the blind install?
if so it is easy to get it plugged in just bit off...my initial install needed 2 tries to get it plugged in right....then no issues.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GBMINI
With the problems FES had when they tried, I'm quite glad I didn't try it - definitely would need to own one for testing! Wonder if the IRS would accept it as a deduction
Well, maybe if you sold 56,000 of them...
Still loving my custom garage door opener version.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 03:57 PM
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Well it magically started working today, sort of. Auto up is working for who knows what reason. DSC is staying off which is good and bad. The bad is it won't turn back on now. Still zero reply from FES.....
 
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 04:02 PM
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So, I'd first remove the circuit and confirm DSC is back to normal. Then re-connect, being double careful of correct connection.

With my original version, if you activate "track mode DSC", you can still manually tap the switch to bring DSC back on after it's been disabled. So if you can't, with this circuit, it suggests to me either bad install, or bad circuit.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 04:06 PM
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I've triple checked the alignment and it's all good. Up until the DSC won't disengage everything worked as normal which tells me alignment was good. If it was off the switches I don't think function properly at all.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 06:00 PM
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The original designer said ...
Originally Posted by GBMINI
I'd first remove the circuit and confirm DSC is back to normal
 
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 06:40 PM
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Removed it and it was the same so I put it back in. I then drove the car and the DSC light shut off after a few hundred feet. Not sure what caused it to do that but it does seem separate from the module. Fingers crossed that it continues to play nice.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 07:02 PM
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Good.
Possible wheel speed sensor issue; driving a bit would reset that problem.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 08:01 AM
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So if you buy the DSC module it does include the one touch window option?

Also, does this allow the key fob to remotely close the windows/sunroof?
 
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Skippman
So if you buy the DSC module it does include the one touch window option?

Also, does this allow the key fob to remotely close the windows/sunroof?
Yes and no.
I believe all the circuits do auto-up and DSC. Though functionality did vary over time (more functions on some switches.) See FES Auto for the V7 version.

No, the auto up doesn't close the windows/sunroof. I believe there is a module out there that does that, but you must also have the OEM alarm.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 09:15 AM
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So I'd need one of these as well then? Correct? Sorry for the thread hijack.
 
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