How is Hydra a poorly engineered mod? To me, it looks as if quite a lot of effort was put into the Nemesis to make it work. Whatever...you guys keep sending off your ECU's for a flash with minimal results.

 

Can the rev limit be set at whatever rpm you want or does the ecu still have control over that??

 

I am NOT stating the unit is a poorly engineered mod. I am only stating how I read the LDG post.

For me the Hydra is not the solution I seek. I want to keep the cruise control. I use it on long trips.

 

You'd have to ask Luckydoggarage what his posts implications are. I for one think the Hydra is an excellent solution for those that are willing to give up some creature comforts for total ignition and fuel control.

 

I think/hope that is what he was saying.... Still confused a little. But hey whatever, i am sure it was meant to be good, it did have one of these on the end!

We do have final pricing on the systems, and info will be on our site very soon! I would love for anyone to call me, that might be interested so we can start with developing maps for them.

Absolutely! So one thing i am find is that the stock injectors are perfect for a 15% car running to about 7200. After that, its time to go to the JCW injectors. So we will have maps for that for sure right away. More stuff to come!

One item i think people will really like is the DVC option......more to come!

 

Jeff, will you be doing any maps for your twincharge kit?

 

Absolutely! So one thing i am find is that the stock injectors are perfect for a 15% car running to about 7200. After that, its time to go to the JCW injectors. So we will have maps for that for sure right away. More stuff to come!

Jeff does that mean I can set the rpm limit to 8000rpm?

 

With the proper injectors, and pulley combo 8000 may be doable, but it will be pushing the valvetrain. Realistaclly 7500 is the max we will make a map for.

I am also retracting my statement for 7200 being safe with stock injectors. This just isn't the case. It is just too lean for me to feel safe. So 7000 is the limit!

Some preliminary results!
Did some tuning this weekend! We didn't get to finish as there was a bug in the TPS wire causing a strange dip in TPS in the middle of the runs, and in turn causing the "throttle pump" to be acutated. This made for a rich spot during the run.

Progress so far. There is about 50ft-lbs gain at low RPM's. The big gain is raising the rev limit, and at this point the JCW injectors are going in the car and its retune time. This also means that every map we supply will require injectors. We can make maps for both, but in the end the 380cc injectors will be worth the higher redline, and about 20WHP. Throttle response is amazing! Driving the partially tuned hydra back to back with the stock ECU is very noticable. The power from 2000-3400 is amazing!

Over the next week or so you will see some more HP stuff proving the hydra works. Along with this more info about the possible R56 version!

 

Is that a typo Jeff 50ft lb?? If you could give me that from about 3200 -5000 I'd be so happy

 

See what happens when you forget the new cover sheet for the TPS Report!

Sorry could not resist...

 

 

I'm really looking forward to the progress of the Hydra. I think the potential is huge.

It's very reassuring that such a solid company is behind this product.

Longboard

 

This is a very interesting developement if it works out. My question is, what if I'm a complete moron when it comes to tuning? Can I just take the unit (with wideband) down to the local dyno/tuner shop and say, "safely max the hp for me, please?". How many hours of tuning would that be (rough guess)? Places in the Pgh area charge ~ $100+ an hour for tuning. That could add to the price considerably.

 

No typo!! Yes 50ft-lbs! Its huge! Its nice not having things hold you back when tuning a car.

Thanks! We have some cool things up our sleeves for this also. Just wait. But in the upcoming weeks, you will get some good dyno numbers on 15% cars and 19% cars, and with Water injection.

Customers do not have to know anything about tuning. We will have base maps that run the car very well, and make great power. But for those who want to get a little more, or have a setup that could gain from tuning, should take it to the dyno shop. We can help the dyno shop out with tuning, if they need it, but hopefully they are tuners, not just dyno runners.

Cost to do that can vary. Our maps will be refined heavily, so not much will be done. Except for places with poor octane fuel, we will not be detuning them much. We will offer the most HP we feel is safe for all areas and octanes.

We will have units to sell in about 4 weeks. In case people are interested in buying one!

 

This is going to be good!

50ft-lb's

Longboard

 

ALTA/Jeff: Will you sell fully unlocked Hydra's for advanced users and applications?

 

Of course! Fully unlocked is $1950, locked will be $1700. But locked will be still tunable from our map. You just can't see our map. You still have the R53?? I ask as the R56 version may not be that far behind!

 

It's good you're offering both versions, but....Why the price difference on the unlocked Hydra?

That would rock if the R56 Hydra would come to fruition sooner rather than later!

 

bump, ALTA any insight for the price delta for locked vs. unlocked? To me it seems a locked unit would cost more as you have to add programming to enable those restrictions.

 

Sorry i missed your post!

The locked unit does have more effort to supply it, but it is done to cut the retail price down. 90% of the customers buying this will buy it unlocked, at least that is my thought. I think there will be people with turbo kits, SC kits and crazy normal pulley guys wanting this. So for them, they are going to tune it.

The price is also adjusted to those who just want to treat it as an ECU flash. Where the just plug it in and drive. Then they can save a little bit of money initially.

More dyno info soon!

 

That would be me...

 

Thanks Adam. Yes I'd agree that most people that know they want this are in the crazy category.

 

I guess that puts me in the crazy category. I like crazy allot.

My Hydra count down is ticking fast.

Longboard

 

Interesting, this is the only platform that I know of that will have unlocked and locked units. Does Alta have distributing rights to the MINI units?

 

Yes Ben, ALTA is the exclusive distributor for MINI-specific Hydra's; kinda like Flyin' Miata is for the Miata Hydra's, and Element is for the WRX/STI Hydra. [all North American only].