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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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No way 2 gal in the headlight washer resevoir. I didn't measure when it was out, but I'd guess about a half gallon.

This is for the headlights, I'd guess the other tank is about the same.

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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
No way 2 gal in the headlight washer resevoir. I didn't measure when it was out, but I'd guess about a half gallon.

This is for the headlights, I'd guess the other tank is about the same.

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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Really? I don't have cold package but have Xenon washers...is that a different tank? If so, which side is this bottle on?
I'm not sure myself but I think its the same side just a larger tank. I believe they both feed off the same tank. Actually there are three feeding off the same tank. The rear as well.

I have the same thing as you. Mine is dry right now. when I get home I will fill it up and let you know how much it holds.

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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Great. There goes that idea .

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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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So there are two tanks?

Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
No way 2 gal in the headlight washer resevoir. I didn't measure when it was out, but I'd guess about a half gallon.

This is for the headlights, I'd guess the other tank is about the same.

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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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So there are two tanks?
One's on the right, the other's on the left...one's for xenon I think but they're both roughly the same size and sit behind the panel where the side marker is...not very large in either case...
 
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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So, you're still seeing timing retard with the WI?
You're right, it may be a wash. I am also thinking the HP lost will not be significant enough to outweigh the gains in cooling the charge.

I am still seeing the car pull a little timing at WOT...
 
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
No way 2 gal in the headlight washer resevoir. I didn't measure when it was out, but I'd guess about a half gallon.

This is for the headlights, I'd guess the other tank is about the same.

Matt
Been gone for about a week, and trying to catch-up with so many threads!

Matt, I guess you forgot that thread I created a little over a year ago where I removed the rear wiper reservoir, and provided the weight loss. I measured the capacity to be just shy of .75 gallons.

A little bigger would be nice, plus if I'm going to put weight back on, I'd like to do so in rear...
 
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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If that's what you want...

Originally Posted by TonyB
A little bigger would be nice, plus if I'm going to put weight back on, I'd like to do so in rear...
just eat a bunch of Snickers and stop running!

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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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1/2 gallon is ok, but not optimum. Looks like we need another solution!
 
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ALTA2
1/2 gallon is ok, but not optimum. Looks like we need another solution!
I'm thinking of building a tank to fill up the recess in the boot.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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Been gone for about a week, and trying to catch-up with so many threads!

Matt, I guess you forgot that thread I created a little over a year ago where I removed the rear wiper reservoir, and provided the weight loss. I measured the capacity to be just shy of .75 gallons.

A little bigger would be nice, plus if I'm going to put weight back on, I'd like to do so in rear...
Hey Tony...not OT exactly (as you'll see) but I do recall that you used a Brail battery corrrect? If so, two questions for you...

1-what are the dimension for the Brail
2-did you have the dimension for the battery box before you cut it out.

 
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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3/4 gallon...

might be OK for me. I'm looking for what will take me through a 20 min track session.

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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Hey Tony...not OT exactly (as you'll see) but I do recall that you used a Brail battery corrrect? If so, two questions for you...

1-what are the dimension for the Brail
2-did you have the dimension for the battery box before you cut it out.

Sid, I'll take a measurement of the battery tomorrow. Actually, this might help ya!

http://www.race-sport.net/battery

I believe I still have the battery box, but maybe I tossed it... You want to know if I had the dimension of the battery box before I removed it? Not sure what you are asking for...
 
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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Yes...just wondering if you know the dimensions of the battery box

I'll PM you later and explain...
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Sid, I'll take a measurement of the battery tomorrow. Actually, this might help ya!

http://www.race-sport.net/battery

I believe I still have the battery box, but maybe I tossed it... You want to know if I had the dimension of the battery box before I removed it? Not sure what you are asking for...
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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Seal it up with RTV and you've got your gallon storage!

Then use a HAI and put the small battery in the old airbox location! WI done!

Well, it's just a guess.....

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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Does the reservoir have to be rigid?

As I shared with a couple folks well over a year ago, I was contemplating using a bladder of sorts inside the rear panneling. You know, up in the cavity where there are storage compartments (each side of the boot). One could use the rear cigarette ligher hole for a fill location, or somwhere in that vicinity. I drew-up plans long ago, and just never made it happen...

I like the idea because it is in the rear, not visible, and sheltered from the warming sunlight...

And if a bladder is not ideal, I even contemplated forming something that would coutour to the available space back there. I was thinking about putting a plastic bag in this area and shooting some expanding foam into it, letting it form the shape for which I would need to create a container. I see a gallon plus being doable in this space...

My other proposed location for a reservoir is under the car. I have a straight exhaust system, so no resonator or muffler on the left or right side. I could mount something in either or both of those locations, but of course, it is near the muffler. When moving, this is not an issue... Insulation would be nice with this spot...

The easiest place for me would be where the rear seats were, under my fabricated aluminum deck that covers this large concave space. It would be out of sight there, and could be as large as anyone would want. This location is more forward though, but not much more and there is pretty good heat in this area also due its proximity to the exhaust tunnel...

Unless there is some cool, easy way to put a reservoir inside the rear panneling, I'm leaning toward a tank below the car, sheltered from heat and debris. I could easily have a fill hole in the boot area for easy access. I don't use the outboard rear exhaust hangers, so that can help with securing something.

Just thinking out loud...
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyB
Does the reservoir have to be rigid?

As I shared with a couple folks well over a year ago, I was contemplating using a bladder of sorts inside the rear panneling. You know, up in the cavity where there are storage compartments (each side of the boot). One could use the rear cigarette ligher hole for a fill location, or somwhere in that vicinity. I drew-up plans long ago, and just never made it happen...

I like the idea because it is in the rear, not visible, and sheltered from the warming sunlight...

And if a bladder is not ideal, I even contemplated forming something that would coutour to the available space back there. I was thinking about putting a plastic bag in this area and shooting some expanding foam into it, letting it form the shape for which I would need to create a container. I see a gallon plus being doable in this space...

My other proposed location for a reservoir is under the car. I have a straight exhaust system, so no resonator or muffler on the left or right side. I could mount something in either or both of those locations, but of course, it is near the muffler. When moving, this is not an issue... Insulation would be nice with this spot...

The easiest place for me would be where the rear seats were, under my fabricated aluminum deck that covers this large concave space. It would be out of sight there, and could be as large as anyone would want. This location is more forward though, but not much more and there is pretty good heat in this area also due its proximity to the exhaust tunnel...

Unless there is some cool, easy way to put a reservoir inside the rear panneling, I'm leaning toward a tank below the car, sheltered from heat and debris. I could easily have a fill hole in the boot area for easy access. I don't use the outboard rear exhaust hangers, so that can help with securing something.

Just thinking out loud...
Good question about the reservoir being rigid. I honestly don't know. I would imagine where the filler tube goes in and where the outlet exits would have to be, the rest could be some kind of bladder.
Your idea about a tank underneath the car would work well. I would put it under the right rear to offset the drivers weight a little.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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I too originally thought of the right rear for the same reason, as that is why put my battery there. An older photo:



I could also put the reservoir on the same side, or the opposite to counteract the 10 pound battery. It will all get corner-balanced again, so probably doesn't matter I suppose...
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyB
I too originally thought of the right rear for the same reason, as that is why put my battery there. An older photo:



I could also put the reservoir on the same side, or the opposite to counteract the 10 pound battery. It will all get corner-balanced again, so probably doesn't matter I suppose...
That's your battery right there? What's it wrapped in? Sid did say that you used a Braille battery.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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Just an old T-shirt that I was going to trash. I've gone black now, looks nicer... I'll be selling my deck, and making a less stronger one (think lighter). The one pictured supports bags of of concrete!



Oh, here's what it looks like with the shirt and floor mat removed:

 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Oh, here's what it looks like with the shirt and floor mat removed:

That's pretty cool. I didn't know you could lay the battery on it's side like that.
I just tried to call you, but got the machine.
Is that MINI decal from the file you sent me way, way back? I think that was my first mod.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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just sent ya a pm. sorry, didn't have the cordless outside with me. working on the mini now actually. fun stuff like running a microphone for handsfree operation...

ah, that's a mousepad believe it or not! if you find them still available, let me know. i recently trashed mine as it saw too much sun over the years. was like 10 bucks back in the day... I still have that large image though.

since these are sla batteries, they are sealed (sealed lead acid), making orientation not so critical....

give me a couple more hours to wrap-up, and try calling again, if you like...
 
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 03:02 AM
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If you are running a DFIC how feasible is it to tap in using one of the existing bungs?
 
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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If you are running a DFIC how feasible is it to tap in using one of the existing bungs?
I was just talking with TonyB about that very same thing.
I think that as long as you have enough pressure going through the correct size nozzle so that the spray will reach across the core, you should be fine. Otherwise, you may need to use a bar type sprayer that extends into the core.
 
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