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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I ordered this dampener back in Nov. 2006 and just got to installing it last Saturday... I wanted to drive the car for a couple of months so that I could feel the difference.

Let me tell you... The car responds so much better now.. I LOVE this mod.. I have been moding cars for 7 years now and this is the best mod I have ever done... The shifting is so much tighter now as well...

I don't have any vibration in the steering wheel like some people posted..

Oh, just so you know, this can be installed without the stubby wrench and without the tape... just PATIENCE is need and some creativity and holding everything in place with your fingers... took only 30 mins to get it in...

THANK YOU SHOE! love the product...

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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:36 AM
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allen used a coat hanger...

 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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HD05 - which one did you get, the TSW or the LOTF?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by J A Blazer
HD05 - which one did you get, the TSW or the LOTF?
He bought mine.

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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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Shoe, have the blue ones shipped yet? Just curious...the family ordered me one thru Helix for Christmas.

After all of these very positive comments, I am looking forward to trying it out!
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave
Shoe, have the blue ones shipped yet? Just curious...the family ordered me one thru Helix for Christmas.

After all of these very positive comments, I am looking forward to trying it out!
Hi ProfessorDave,

The boatload arrives at my door this evening and all three colors are available.

I will pack 'em up asap and ship 'em out.

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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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Another tip. Seemed really obvious to me, but I haven't noticed anyone else commenting on it in this thread:

To avoid losing anything into the abyss, I stuffed the space below the damper with a rag(s), filling as much space as possible. After the install, just pull the rag out. And yes, I was glad I did this... I fumbled a couple of times.

BTW I love the effect the damper has. Much less engine flop (herky -jerky). Smoothed the driving experience out a lot.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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here is what I am doing for 02 MCS Manual:


The front brace will be different than what is shown. I will be using a U shaped bracket so that the forces will not rotate the bracket.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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i thought coat hanger tool was bad, now look at cardboard. jk
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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LOL. This is ultra strength bamboo fiber cardboard.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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those that come in those shumai dumpling boxes.

good enough. lol
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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Shoe,

I've no idea where you are located, but have you thought of bringing several dozen of these to the Dragon and offering installs?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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I never install anything without my trusty wire hanger!!!

I ordered mine from LOTF...

Allen
 
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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Got mine installed... You really MUST have all the right tools including the 17MM stubby (or, in my case, an 11/16" since I could not find a metric version to save my life).

When installed, the main body of the damper is literally RIGHT AGAINST the belt tensioner... Is this normal? I didn't use the second bell washer against the block because:

A. I don't have a MCSa and
B. It looked like only a little bit of the threads would extend past the bell washer and I didn't want a weak connection.

Oh - by the way... Found the telescoping magnet tool (VERY handy - already used it half a dozen times) for $2 at Harbor Freight Tools. Yay!
 
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by whovous
Shoe,

I've no idea where you are located, but have you thought of bringing several dozen of these to the Dragon and offering installs?
Hi I'm just outside of NYC. I was thinking about doing just that - but how crazy would the dragon be if I had.....say.....50 dampers flying all over the place in the back?


Originally Posted by ImagoX
Got mine installed... You really MUST have all the right tools including the 17MM stubby (or, in my case, an 11/16" since I could not find a metric version to save my life).

When installed, the main body of the damper is literally RIGHT AGAINST the belt tensioner... Is this normal? I didn't use the second ball washer against the block because:

A. I don't have a MCSa and
B. It looked like only a little bit of the threads would extend past the bell washer and I didn't want a weak connection.

Oh - by the way... Found the telescoping magnet tool (VERY handy - already used it half a dozen times) for $2 at Harbor Freight Tools. Yay!
I've just updated the instructions to include a comment about using the bell washer on the engine side - you can use it, but because space is tight, you have to NOT use the lock washer. I have had it running on my car this way for at least a few thousand miles with no ill effect of the bolt spinning out. A little anti-seize on the bolt helps as well.

V3 of the instructions HERE

....but v2 includes section in bold red if I'm not mistaken that clearly says you should NOT have the body touching the belt tensioner and that you should adjust the length of the damper to as SHORT as possible.

Also the order in which you tighten down the bolts is important - as per the instructions please hand tighten the engine side, then tighten up the frame side completely (making sure the body does not hit the belt tensioner) and THEN crank down the engine side.

Let me know how it goes.

Shoe
 
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 07:38 AM
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I don't do autox, but am addicted to Driver's Schools, is this mod something that would be beneficial for me?
What are the chances of it being offered in green?

Annette
 
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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Yes - I tightened the frame side first and only then cranked down the engine block side. I DID try and use both the lock washer and the bell washer on the engine block side, Shoe - that's likely why there didn't seem like enough of the bolt threads protruding through the washer.

As for length, I adjusted it so that the frame end was centered in the hole.

I'll tear it down and replace the lock washer with the bell-shaped washer (against the block) and that should give me a tad more clearance.

PS - your V3 instructions link is not working for me.

Annette - this MOD benefits anyone looking for smoother shifts and power delivery. It does seem like there's a bit more engine noise and vibration in the steering wheel and pedals, but not annoyingly so. If you engage in "spirited" driving then you'll definitely notice a difference I think...
 
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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Sounds like a winner .
Guess I'll add this, too .

Annette
 
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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I ground about a 16th off both sides of bell washer on engine side. Fits perfect with no rubbing and used the lock washer. Great product!
 
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BoCRon
I don't do autox, but am addicted to Driver's Schools, is this mod something that would be beneficial for me?
What are the chances of it being offered in green?

Annette
As Imgaox pointed out, the mod benefits everyone except for those who autox in the stock class (additional engine damper = no no)

Working on green. Trying to get black as well as I have had a few requests. Your green request is a first though.


Originally Posted by ImagoX
Yes - I tightened the frame side first and only then cranked down the engine block side. I DID try and use both the lock washer and the bell washer on the engine block side, Shoe - that's likely why there didn't seem like enough of the bolt threads protruding through the washer.

As for length, I adjusted it so that the frame end was centered in the hole.

I'll tear it down and replace the lock washer with the bell-shaped washer (against the block) and that should give me a tad more clearance.

PS - your V3 instructions link is not working for me.

Annette - this MOD benefits anyone looking for smoother shifts and power delivery. It does seem like there's a bit more engine noise and vibration in the steering wheel and pedals, but not annoyingly so. If you engage in "spirited" driving then you'll definitely notice a difference I think...

Hi, just fixed the link. Sorry about that. Yes, you can do without the lock washer. Also splashing a light coat of anti-seize paste doesn't hurt, especially if you have an older car that may have some rust build up there.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Here is my brackets...

The mockups:


The new brackets, Damper and hardware:
 
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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I just got mine intalled today
its so so so amazingly different
in a very good way
 
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HighSchoolzMINI
I just got mine intalled today
its so so so amazingly different
in a very good way
Hope you enjoyed the ride back home! Thanks for coming over so early (9am on a Sunday morning for a high school kid who brought his dad - now THAT is amazing!

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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LordOfTheFlies
Hope you enjoyed the ride back home! Thanks for coming over so early (9am on a Sunday morning for a high school kid who brought his dad - now THAT is amazing!

Shoe
well its nothing compared to wakin up a six five days a week
i just usally dont have to wake up my dad
and yea he was going trigger happy with my gas pedal so it was pretty amusing
 
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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arly- looks good. are you going to sell those in volume?
 
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