Drivetrain Best CAT back?
Best CAT back?
I want to get a CAT back for my '02 "S". Anyone have an opinion or expirence to share? I'm interested in an improvement in the exhaust song, but do not want to go too radical.
I run a scorpion on my 03. Great value for the $$. Read up on this thread:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...arket+exhausts
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...arket+exhausts
Also have a Milltech
).Got my vote
best description=purrs at idle....refined and deep on the move but.....
Like all catbacks...You definately know it ain't stock!

We have tested everything under the sun, and helped design the Milltek. I have to say of the exhausts available, I like it the best. We are working on a revolutionary system in house, but it won't be in the same price range (it is super-trick though!), so keep an eye out in the next month or so...
Hope that helps!
Randy
PS - We have Millteks in stock
Hope that helps!
Randy
PS - We have Millteks in stock
Was just talking to John about his LDG system....been holding out for many months waiting on this system. Once he gets it in the shop you can bet on me being there the next day for an install....and of course I will be posting sound bites, pics, and whatever else you want to see!
Randy - keep it up...very interested to see what you come out with next.
Randy - keep it up...very interested to see what you come out with next.
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We have tested everything under the sun, and helped design the Milltek. I have to say of the exhausts available, I like it the best. We are working on a revolutionary system in house, but it won't be in the same price range (it is super-trick though!), so keep an eye out in the next month or so... [Emphasis added.]
Well, one of the many changes we made when we brought the unit in-house is technology we are working on patenting that allows the removal of the muffler internals to adjust packing and sound levels and tone (that's on the valve closed side). That allows for things such as headers and cylinder heads on cars and stock componentes on other cars, as well as personal taste. If you want it louder, you can pack it loose, if you want it quiet, pack it tight. If you want to scare children and your next door neighbor's wife, open the valve and run unmuffled!
So, to answer your question, it varies. It can be as quiet as the Milltek (something we've been working on over a year), or as loud as a Supertrapp.
Hope that helps!
Randy
So, to answer your question, it varies. It can be as quiet as the Milltek (something we've been working on over a year), or as loud as a Supertrapp.
Hope that helps!
Randy
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Now that I run a header, and high flow cat, I feel the Milltek is really a great catback. Well built, good looking from the rear (and who doesn't like a good looking rear?), and a low grumbly sound that doesn't yell "what you want with that rice?" A fart in a tin can, it is not!
Horse power, smorse power...who cares? I never spent a nickel on my MINI to get more horse power, damn it.
Great to have you back, Randy!
cheers,
Horse power, smorse power...who cares? I never spent a nickel on my MINI to get more horse power, damn it.
Great to have you back, Randy!
cheers,
I have (and love) the Milltek. My friend has the Magnaflow, and that seems just a bit louder, and perhaps a bit raspier. It also has much larger/noticeable exhaust tips, or TRUMPETS, as I call them. They flare out, and go well past the bumper edge, so they're more noticeable.
I like the Milltek's sound, and how well it fits into the bumper. It looks like an OEM fit...
(sorry for the big picture)
I like the Milltek's sound, and how well it fits into the bumper. It looks like an OEM fit...
(sorry for the big picture)
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If you go the OBX route you can pick up the header and the catback for the same $$ as the other catbacks discussed here. The obx exhaust is not a full catback - you will reuse the stock center pipe. No catback alone is going to beat a header/catback combo.
Or just do a header w/ a 1-ball
Or just do a header w/ a 1-ball
Yes, you'll get more horsepower by getting both headers and a cat-back, of that there is no doubt, but there are other things to consider with going that route. For most street MINI's, one could argue that headers are not necessary, and add much more noise than we'd want for a daily driver. Also, most aftermarket header systems cost a lot of money. You also get problems with the catalytic converter in an aftermarket system. I know one very popular model has had repeated reliability problems with the cat needing frequent replacment. That's a PITA!
If you're fine with a really loud (like scare children and the elderly loud), then a header might be right for you, provided you have another $600 to $800 laying around.
If you're fine with a really loud (like scare children and the elderly loud), then a header might be right for you, provided you have another $600 to $800 laying around.
Yes, you'll get more horsepower by getting both headers and a cat-back, of that there is no doubt, but there are other things to consider with going that route. For most street MINI's, one could argue that headers are not necessary, and add much more noise than we'd want for a daily driver. Also, most aftermarket header systems cost a lot of money. You also get problems with the catalytic converter in an aftermarket system. I know one very popular model has had repeated reliability problems with the cat needing frequent replacment. That's a PITA!
If you're fine with a really loud (like scare children and the elderly loud), then a header might be right for you, provided you have another $600 to $800 laying around.
If you're fine with a really loud (like scare children and the elderly loud), then a header might be right for you, provided you have another $600 to $800 laying around.
The header / 1- ball combo is a great street system
I had the Borla sport... I likes it but thought the sound a bit too loud. especially on long drives. The drone at freeway cruising speed would drive me insane so I switched to the Miltek. Sounds much more refined and sporty without being too ricey or obnoxious. To be honest I didn't really notice any significant difference in terms of performance but I LOVE the sound of my Miltek!!!
Well, one of the many changes we made when we brought the unit in-house is technology we are working on patenting that allows the removal of the muffler internals to adjust packing and sound levels and tone (that's on the valve closed side). That allows for things such as headers and cylinder heads on cars and stock componentes on other cars, as well as personal taste. If you want it louder, you can pack it loose, if you want it quiet, pack it tight. If you want to scare children and your next door neighbor's wife, open the valve and run unmuffled!
So, to answer your question, it varies. It can be as quiet as the Milltek (something we've been working on over a year), or as loud as a Supertrapp.
Hope that helps!
Randy
So, to answer your question, it varies. It can be as quiet as the Milltek (something we've been working on over a year), or as loud as a Supertrapp.
Hope that helps!
Randy
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