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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 06:05 AM
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Question for m7 flywheel owners

Did you get the upgraded pressure plate too? What do you think of the combo?

I placed an order for the flywheel online and then m7 emailed me recommending I get the pressure plate too. I'll probably take their advice but wanted to hear from some owners too. My search turned up 1 review: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?p=618566

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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pure&simple
Did you get the upgraded pressure plate too? What do you think of the combo?
The review you cite is pretty close to my experience. The "chatter" is a small price to pay for "the unbearable lightness of being" (apologies to Milan Kundera). The thrilling performance of this combo is responsiveness: lightning fast revving in each gear. Along with the AGS v3 system, this mod takes your Mini to a new level. Those who saw/drove my car at the Dragon, don't need much persuasion to understand and appreciate the performance.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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I'm actually about to install the M7 combo myself next week, but the one thing I'm curious about is whether the bolt torque settings for the flywheel are the same as the stock one? I'm assuming so as I haven't read anything that told me otherwise, but figure better to be safe than sorry. Anybody have info on that? Suppose worst-case scenario, I could always ring M7 and find out.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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He's taking calls now, as always, so it seems!
 
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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This question has not come up before but I do not think that the torque settings change between ours and stock. I will make a call and double check for you.

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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Alerious
I'm actually about to install the M7 combo myself next week, but the one thing I'm curious about is whether the bolt torque settings for the flywheel are the same as the stock one? I'm assuming so as I haven't read anything that told me otherwise, but figure better to be safe than sorry. Anybody have info on that? Suppose worst-case scenario, I could always ring M7 and find out.
Ok here is the scoop. You use the factory specs to re install the assembley. For example the flywheel to crankshaft bolts are 66 ft lbs. Feel free to call us anytime for info.

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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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I just have to say.... There are only two vendors on this site with this kind of support. You guys at M7 and Todd from TCE.
Kudos to you both!
 
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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So Randy, would you mind explaining the benefit provided by doing the pressure plate in addition to the lightened flywheel?
 
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Well for one it is built by the same company as a compliment to the flywheel. Secondly it is the least expensive of the components including the labor charge of the entire operation . I tried a different companies pressure plate the first time i did this as I needed it in a hurry and ours was not available. I did not have a good experience shall we say so I removed it and put our own unit in a few months later . It was a quality item , and very well known but just did not work out for me. I think the bottom line is you could go with the stock unit but as long as you are in there why not go the whole way.

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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by onasled
I just have to say.... There are only two vendors on this site with this kind of support. You guys at M7 and Todd from TCE.
Kudos to you both!
Thanks for the kind words but it is like the old addage , no rest for the wicked

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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Just a note regarding the Flywheel/pressure plate combo that we highly recomend you to go with. RPS had 2 sets of flywheel/PPL combos available
we bought both sets (no more available for months). The combo comes balanced for perfect vibration free power delivery, and something else to consider is the improved clamping force that you get with the improved pressure plate, allowing a less agressive clutch plate to be used......

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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 04:55 AM
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Very awesome, thanks again for that info. We'll see how the install goes next week, I can very well say I'm one excited fellow!
 
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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May I ask what it cost you to have your flywheel, clutch and pressure plate installed. I ask because typically that isn't a home project.

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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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whats the driveability like with a lightened fly wheel + pressure plate ( not targeting m7 product specifically - but an overall sense ) - is this too much to bear in peakhour traffic?
 
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by skuzy
whats the driveability like with a lightened fly wheel + pressure plate ( not targeting m7 product specifically - but an overall sense ) - is this too much to bear in peakhour traffic?

With our flywheel and clutch combo I can honestly say there are No negative driving effects. Now in order to quantify that statement let me tell you the little real world test I did. After putting in our 14.5 lb wheel I took the car home and asked my wife to take it for a spin .I told her i had changed something but not what it was. She went out for a half hour and the only thing she could come up with was that the car seemed even louder if that was possible LOL. She hates my modified Borla exhaust. We did not come up with the 14.5 weight by accident . We felt that it was the best compromise of improved motor response while still maintaining an almost stock feel as far everyday driving was concerned . If you go any lower weight wise you MAY get a bit more response but you WILL have a different car to drive.

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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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would it be wise to switch to lighter flywheel pressure plate combo when a person already has a lighted crank pulley? something in my mind says no... but im no expert. if u can shed any light on this id really appreciate it..

i suppose the lightend flywheel doenst up the HP but helps with take offs etc? (rotational mass?)
 
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by skuzy
would it be wise to switch to lighter flywheel pressure plate combo when a person already has a lighted crank pulley? something in my mind says no... but im no expert. if u can shed any light on this id really appreciate it..

i suppose the lightend flywheel doenst up the HP but helps with take offs etc? (rotational mass?)
You are rite it has more to do with reducing the rotational mass than anything else.

I have about 40k miles on my flywheel and close to 10k on our 2% lightweight crank pulley. I know of several owners with this setup. My goal was to try and get as far away from the " drive by wire " feel of the Mini. I have tried to create the quickest responding Mini I could , but still have it perfectly streetable. With the Flywheel, lightweight crank pullet and AGS V3 I have accomplished that goal.

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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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The combo comes balanced for perfect vibration free power delivery
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This statement by Peter is everything. Everything else about this combo is just icing.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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May I ask what it cost you to have your flywheel, clutch and pressure plate installed. I ask because typically that isn't a home project.

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It is certainly not a project I would attempt at home . I beleive the cost locally is about $ 800 but that also included fitting a Quaiffe limited slip.

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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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radny u have pm. thanks for ur time!
 
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 04:52 AM
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So if one were to install a 2% crank pulley to a 16% pulley... the supercharger would be boosting about 18% equivalent? Would one still use the JCW belt?

Hmm.... 16% pulley + 2% lighten crank pulley + lightened flywheel + stage 2 clutch + AGS pro + Unichip tuning would be really, really, really sweet a$$....
 
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bster
So if one were to install a 2% crank pulley to a 16% pulley... the supercharger would be boosting about 18% equivalent? Would one still use the JCW belt?

Hmm.... 16% pulley + 2% lighten crank pulley + lightened flywheel + stage 2 clutch + AGS pro + Unichip tuning would be really, really, really sweet a$$....
Woo...

After all those goodies....the car would be totally wicked....

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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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"So if one were to install a 2% crank pulley to a 16% pulley... the supercharger would be boosting about 18% equivalent? Would one still use the JCW belt? "



The JCW belt would allow enough adjustment to work correctly .


"Hmm.... 16% pulley + 2% lighten crank pulley + lightened flywheel + stage 2 clutch + AGS pro + Unichip tuning would be really, really, really sweet a$$.... "


YES it is

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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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Hahahhaa I'm drooling just thinking about that...
 
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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ill probably place an order when the stock clutch dies...
 
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