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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by markldriskill
It's a three-ball.
Ah yes... a MINI with YY chromosomes .
 
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 05:04 AM
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All of this best header generic talk in nonsense. All of the headers available to us will improve the MCS performance - some more hp oriented and others more tq oriented BUT they still all fall in a relatively narrow range.

The real question is which is the best header for your car and your driving needs. The dollars you spend is simply what one determines these additional hp/tq is worth AND you can afford.

You got a grand to spend - great, you have various choices. You got 200 bucks spend - well you have several choices as well.

I think the most important thing here is that many here at NAM have installed headers and have found positive gains = a header is a mod consideration.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mini Works
I can guarantee you, that the Larini header might be expensive, but it is by far the best header available at this time.
Victor
How you can say this when you also say in the same post that "Larini had not provided you with any materials" is unbelieveable. Come on Victor, at best you have a quality high end header. You shouldn't over sell!

You feel there is no comparison to a OBX + stock cat but you really having nothing to compare. You should not push others down in order to look tall.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bahamabart
All of this best header generic talk in nonsense. All of the headers available to us will improve the MCS performance - some more hp oriented and others more tq oriented BUT they still all fall in a relatively narrow range.

The real question is which is the best header for your car and your driving needs. The dollars you spend is simply what one determines these additional hp/tq is worth AND you can afford.

You got a grand to spend - great, you have various choices. You got 200 bucks spend - well you have several choices as well.

I think the most important thing here is that many here at NAM have installed headers and have found positive gains = a header is a mod consideration.
Exactly.......

$200 is the right number. Not much gain, a little better in the mid range with an OE head, much better with a head mod ( almost a must have mod ) but what are you getting in the +$1000 header? Stahl may be the best choice at $ = performance IMHO. It is the header I would buy if my car was not a DD. Loud is over, don't need it, had loud for many years, too many years, something to think about.
At $200 a pop & failure rate = every 3 years, I could live with that. Each replacement I could make some improvment.
Bottom line, the OE header is not that bad. This brings the question "which is best?" back to the table.
If "flex" is an issue & you don't want to upgrade MMs ( a little more buzz inside the car ), Megan looks pretty good.
"flex" is no issue, the new OBX is the answer.
Either way $200 or less. Cat = extra.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by stevecars60
Exactly.......

$200 is the right number. Not much gain, a little better in the mid range with an OE head, much better with a head mod ( almost a must have mod ) but what are you getting in the +$1000 header? Stahl may be the best choice at $ = performance IMHO. It is the header I would buy if my car was not a DD. Loud is over, don't need it, had loud for many years, too many years, something to think about.
At $200 a pop & failure rate = every 3 years, I could live with that. Each replacement I could make some improvment.
Bottom line, the OE header is not that bad. This brings the question "which is best?" back to the table.
If "flex" is an issue & you don't want to upgrade MMs ( a little more buzz inside the car ), Megan looks pretty good.
"flex" is no issue, the new OBX is the answer.
Either way $200 or less. Cat = extra.
What's the 'new' OBX? did they redo their mini header?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jymontoya
What's the 'new' OBX? did they redo their mini header?
From the pics I'v seen, last 2 years, they don't look like the header from a few years back. I have a friend with a + or - 3 year old OBX. I'm assuming this is the way it came from OBX ( the welds looked original ). The only difference I can see is the collector, much better bend & looks like a better flange. Other than that they look pretty much the same. Without the 2 in my hand, that's all I can tell you.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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Is that continuous improvement?

or just variation in manufacture... You can never tell with the knock offs, unless you look at a lot of them!

Matt
 
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Later revision???

Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
or just variation in manufacture... You can never tell with the knock offs, unless you look at a lot of them!

Matt
Who knows. It would be reasonable to expect some improvment over time. Maybe?
If the car was close by, a pic would nice but it's in Ohio then going to Fla till April.
 
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