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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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Why not just buy from Michael Cooper?

http://www.johncooper.co.uk/JohnCoop...FExhaust+Kits/

they will ship these to US. Claims 10HP.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
Why not just buy from Michael Cooper?

http://www.johncooper.co.uk/JohnCoop...FExhaust+Kits/

they will ship these to US. Claims 10HP.
Looks to be an excellent design but for me they relocate the CAT by more than 6" which is a NO NO for STX. 10HP is kind of inline with Milltek anyway which is just a copy of my London Stainless with a cheaper CAT. Though, the midrange and low end could be much improved with the JCW. I've heard the JCW Headers cost something like $2500 to actually get in the U.S. Shipping is a Biaach.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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mymini headers

anyone know anything about the mymini headers? Display Products
 
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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Looks like we have another entry into the header competition - Comptech. Comptech makes great stuff, IMHO, or at least they do for the Acura and Honda crowd. I can't imagine their MINI header would be any less groovy.

I noticed they said it'll trip the check engine light - catless, yes, but with a cat I can't imagine it would?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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Got a quote from the "Zoomers" folks (the one that has what looks like NO mufflers, and only an interesting "resonator" (which, it turns out, is a resonator and muffler all in one). They say that the price is $699 fo the cat-back and that the dB is "89", for what it's worth.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scobib
Looks like we have another entry into the header competition - Comptech. Comptech makes great stuff, IMHO, or at least they do for the Acura and Honda crowd. I can't imagine their MINI header would be any less groovy.

I noticed they said it'll trip the check engine light - catless, yes, but with a cat I can't imagine it would?
please... more info on this header
 
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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please... more info on this header
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...31&postcount=1

I guess the Honda manufacturers realized they could get 2x to 3x the price for parts to the Mini crowd!

Matt

ps, search function does wonders...
 
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...31&postcount=1

I guess the Honda manufacturers realized they could get 2x to 3x the price for parts to the Mini crowd!

Matt

ps, search function does wonders...
i searched at the wrong spot... thier site, which says nothing about mini headers. wonder how good is the header compared to thier honda offerings which are pretty good imo.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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SACLAM header

I think SACLAM(MUGEN) is the best. They claim 12-15ps increase horse power.
I have installed it couple of days ago with MTH tuner file
DUZ header is lighter than SACLAM because they use thinner stainless steel but it is not durable.
If I live in USA, I would go with twin charger.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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The arquay stuff is unbeleiveble, I'm going to run the dual titanium Cat-back on my Elise, but the header is definitely too much$$ for the Mini!
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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Looks like the MiniMania header.


Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...31&postcount=1

I guess the Honda manufacturers realized they could get 2x to 3x the price for parts to the Mini crowd!

Matt

ps, search function does wonders...
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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Arqray

SACLAM is part of MUGEN company.
ARQRAY and FUJITSUBO owner are brother but I dont know they have any relationship or not.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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We are currently running The new LARINI SYSTEMS header with a GT Sports Cat,

Did not had a chance to run the car in the Dyno yet, the sound is great and the quality is superb.

No issues with the installation.



 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Price

Actually SACLAM header is not $2k. I have paid $1450 here.
I wanted to import header from USA or EURO but if I add shipping cost plus auto emissions examination fees it would be same price as Japan domestic products.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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>>mini works

beatiful header
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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Hey Guys,

I can speak from experience with Comptech products. I was sponsored by Comptech and helped them develop/test the majority of their Type R parts in the late 90's before I went to work for them in 2000 for a couple years. Aside from Mugen products, Comptech is probably the closest thing to Mugen you can get in a US made product.

Unlike a lot of other companies Comptech didn't start their business making aftermarket products. They have a very, very long racing heritage that actually started in the 80's with Doug Peterson racing several different cars, one of which was a Mini and the other was a early CRX, sponsored by who?.. Mugen. Talk about an absolutely incredible driver. Doug is KING of the Mini Cooper in the National GT-5 SCCA events. He can go years without driving, then jump into a race prepped Cooper and place first.

http://www.redlineoil.com/news_article.asp?id=181

Alright.. Enough background. This is where the company began and they take extreme pride in the craftsmanship and quality of all their products. Their welds are awesome and the fitment of all their products is as good, or better, than OEM. The majority of their products are CARB Legal and they have the CARB certification number to prove it and usually provide it as a sticker with their intakes, headers, cat's, and ECU's.. They do EXTENSIVE R&D on everything they put out and ALL of their headers and exhausts are made in-house. They don't put out a product that doesn't look right, or perform up to their expectations. Although their products do look good, it's the function that comes first. You will never be dissatisfied with a Comptech product. If you have any problems with it, they're quick to remedy it. It's really not that difficult to make a header that will make more Peak HP.. It’s a challenge to make a header that performs strong over the entire RPM band. That comes from R&D. A perfect example is the Honda S2000 header. Comptech took 2 years to develop a header that actually MADE power on that car. Literally hundreds of header designs later, they finally made a header made around 5 HP. It's not just about flow.. it's about tuning the flow.

As far as CARB certification goes.. for the most part it's a $ and time thing. It costs a good chunk of cash to get your products "CARB Certified" and it does take quite a while, sometimes more than a year, to get your product certified by CARB. Luckily, Comptech has been working with the CARB for many years, primarily since their NSX supercharger kit (a true work of art) came out. They seem to be able to move their products through quicker than most companies, which is good for the consumer.

It's because of the extensive R&D, quality craftsmen from the USA, and CARB certification that the price is higher than the asian made OBX headers you see out there. Quality comes at a cost.

Sorry for the long-winded response, but I just wanted to give a little more in-depth info about a very respectable company and a great bunch of guys.

I'm actually considering picking up one of the Comptech headers if I can get my connections to work..
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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I don't see anything on the Comptech site.

Any price or availability on this header?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by obehave
I don't see anything on the Comptech site.

Any price or availability on this header?
Hey Obehave...

It looks like Seven Enterprises, practically right up the street from Comptech, has Comptech make the header for them.. the link is below. They show it as a Not Street Legal header which makes sense. Comptech makes products for many other companies and it probably wouldn't be as cost effective to CARB certify it when it's such a small production volume.. Anyway, here's the link..

http://www.7ent.com/newmini/detail.cfm?pageid=1774
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by typer139
Hey Obehave...

It looks like Seven Enterprises, practically right up the street from Comptech, has Comptech make the header for them.. the link is below. They show it as a Not Street Legal header which makes sense. Comptech makes products for many other companies and it probably wouldn't be as cost effective to CARB certify it when it's such a small production volume.. Anyway, here's the link..

http://www.7ent.com/newmini/detail.cfm?pageid=1774
Looks like a nice piece. Since you have connections at Comptech, do you think you could find a dyno chart?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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Looks like a nice piece. Since you have connections at Comptech, do you think you could find a dyno chart?
Yeah... I'll see if I can get in touch with my friend that does all the R&D work and I'm sure he worked on this header.. I'll post it if I can swindle it from him..
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by typer139
Alright.. Enough background. This is where the company began and they take extreme pride in the craftsmanship and quality of all their products. They do EXTENSIVE R&D on everything they put out and
True to some extent. Then again, they haven't had a problem knocking-off someone else's product in the past - at least that's what Hytech would tell you.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Good point.. and I completely forgot about John. (how could I!) Hytech makes some really nice stuff and John puts in some serious time one each project he works on. John's got a great way about doing it. He doesn't just knock off headers.. he takes the best header out there, and makes a better one! The only problem is althought his work is incredible, he has a very narrow field and his prices are definatley not in the 'knock-off' arena.. His volume is very low but if you want a custom piece, John is the guy to go to. I've seen some of his turbo manifolds and they are so nice you hate to actually put it on your car.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by typer139
Hey Obehave...

It looks like Seven Enterprises, practically right up the street from Comptech, has Comptech make the header for them.. the link is below. They show it as a Not Street Legal header which makes sense. Comptech makes products for many other companies and it probably wouldn't be as cost effective to CARB certify it when it's such a small production volume.. Anyway, here's the link..

http://www.7ent.com/newmini/detail.cfm?pageid=1774

Thanks.
That's a nice looking piece at a decent price. Tri-Y too which is a good thing in my opinion and for my target.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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Question:

What are the good headers priced at,
any price comparison

We are selling our Larini Sports Header with GT Cat for $1034,

Are we out of the ball park?

Let me know your thoughts
thanks
Victor
 
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mini Works
Question:

What are the good headers priced at,
any price comparison

We are selling our Larini Sports Header with GT Cat for $1034,

Are we out of the ball park?

Let me know your thoughts
thanks
Victor
It's not out of the ballpark, spot on actually. MTH, Milltek, etc. are all in that area so there's a lot of competition. What the MINI community is missing though is a low cost header with a cat though.
 
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