ditto

 

Thread is now a sticky.

A word about TwinCharge Kits for those that have relatively unmodded MINIs.
Think about how modified you want your MINI to ultimately be. Decide if you want to slowly do mods over a period of time as funds permit and keep changing parts and upgrading along the way. This is sometimes fun to do since you can notice the incremental improvement the upgrade makes in isolation.

Otherwise, if you have a big upgrade like a TwinCharge kit in mind from the start you can save up the funds and go for the big upgrade directly and skip all the little ones along the way. You can still do complementary upgrades to the exhaust or suspension and wheels.

Besides TwinCharge Helix13 was also working on a Turbo only kit for the MCS for high end track applications.

 

I saw FTR's Dragster at the Chicago Autoshow on Saturday. It's ridiculous. I mean the car is wicked. The tailpipes are HUGE and there are four of them... and the intake (i think???) for the turbo is even BIGGER. Ever since then I have been seriously thinking about twincharging. Not only just because of the ease of power but also because of the expandability of twincharging I do have a few questions though...

I am looking for like maybe the most minimal amount of hp at the wheels just b/c I don't want to go for 168hp to like 320. That would scare the crap out of me. Which kit should I consider, I know FTR is also going to come out with some stuff later, like June-ish Tim told me?

I know this might seem stupid but... Do you get that AWESOME blow-off valve sound?

If I put a 15% and a 2% on right now would I still be able to keep these?

I guess the most important thing I am asking is what I should do... I mean I don't want to go all out, right out of the box... I mean I'm getting in enough trouble right now with one sixty (one set of RFs in six months) Quite frankly I thought agokart's car was fast I believe he said that was only 200whp. I will start with some basic mods I think, but in the expert's (you guys ) opinions what should I do?

Mikey

 

About the BoV sounds, there is a thread of SPI kit with videos. and o yes. there is that nasty sound.. it sounds SICK.

and I say hold ur horses for the pulleys because I believe you have to slap on bigger pulleys when you twincharge ur car..

that's why I am not getting anything done with pulleys.. waiting for my funds to stack up..

 

With twincharging you really need to decide exactly how far you want to go with your car and exactly how much your willing to pay. If you don't want over 300whp you can go with the any Stg One kit, all will put you at roughly 250whp (around 285hp, correct me if i'm wrong). The price for a Stg One kit goes anywhere from $4,000 to high $5,000... If you don't want that much power then simply don't waste money on twincharging. For most people the more basic mods: intake, pulley, header, exhaust, injectors, chip, etc. are more than enough, that would put you at about 200whp...

I think that putting an intake, pulley, and one-ball is perfect for the meantime before I go twincharge, considerable increase in power over stock and not too much money... You should consider these mods for the meantime if you need to wait for the funds to stack up...

 

First off...thanks for all the compliments....the amount of work that went into that car....people wouldn't belive it...or understand why or how we did it...LOL....heck we think the same thing

as for the release of things...yes...jun-ish is still the idea to my knowledge...

The BOV?...yes you'll get the uber sound of the HKS SSQBOV LOL...

I wouldn't do more than a 15% which will still be returned to stock....

As for going all out...the beauty of the TC kits and so on is you can control boost...well for the most part.....and you can always tune the car accordingly...

It is tuff to decide on something like this...a maxed out pulley car will be at 220 WHP if you got a strong motor...

but this isn't cheap either...and the amount may not be worth it to you to be limited....I cannot answer that for you...

do the research...and drive a TC...drive a 230WHP Pulley car...and see what's what... if you can find them...

 

I guess what's the difference?

I'M SERIOUS MAN THAT CAR IS AWESOME!!!

Mikey

 

if you max out a pulley car....230 WHP that's it..or you go nitro...

if you max out a TC car....well ...it hasnt' been done...

 

Like I meant to say does one perform differently than the other ie does one have better low end torque or something like that?

Mike

 

it's a different drive....the TC car will give yo uthe illusion of power...like an EVO or a STi ...cause the turbo has to "come on" VS a Supercharger which is always on....so it's more stedy....when I was only at 237 WHP I was making 10.26 LBS of boost at 2000 RPMs...and it would pull hard...and then around 3500 to 4K it would really come on! A pulley car at the same RPM would be hard pressed to do that....and even if it could be achived with a pulley car..the air would be so hot...you'd accually loose power...

So...er..I guess it's what I said before...if you are going to really want the 255 WHP like your sig says....TC will be the easiest GARANTEED way...and that's with a stock motor...LOL....if you were to do a head you can keep the HP the same but it would make it MUCH faster...TQ wise for instance...etc etc....on and on....LOL

 

believe me man, i have the money right now, it's sounds better and better the more I hear about it the more I want it. It just seems so complicated, and I really don't want to risk jackin somethin up. I doubt this would happen though... other than that I'm just worried that it will be too much car for me and not perform in the twisties the way a 210whp car will.

SOUNDS COOL

Mike

 

well a 210 WHP car will perform much like a a 250...either way it's alot of Power if you STOMP on it IN a turn...and will most likely result in under steer...rather than feathering the throttle accordingly....that's why it's a throttle and not a switch...

as for complicated...I would say it's not...it's less complicated than a head install...it has mor parts....but is less complicated...it's a bolt on...LOL....which is crazy to me...LOL...not too many bolt ons make that kinda power..

If you are ever out this way...lemme know...I'll gladly take you for a ride...

 

Thanks! Do you go to the Dragon?? I have question in this video, it shows the little hose running through the plastic tank what is that and what is that horrible hissing sound I hear right before the guy lays on it? Am I correct in saying that the CAI for the SC is gone??

oooo I'm starting to like this...

Mikey

 

I ahve not made it to the dragon yet....someday...sigh...as for the hissing...there's a few...one is the brakes from the dyno releasing...the other is when the turbo starts it's spool....it's more pronounced in the video cause of the lack of bass...all you hear is the high pitched stuff....the CAI is now that green filter that you see at the front of the car...so the box for the intake is gone yes...

P.S. how did you find that video...it's over three years old...LOL...I didn't think it was still up...pretty kewl to see again though...and to think the kit is still the same all these years later...

 

did a search for "SPI Video" and a couple of threads came up...

 

I'm definately going to have to video my t/c'ed car...and get it posted. Anyone in the PHX area with a video cam that can output to computer format?

 

Sigh.....You know better than that, Tuls. Nitro? Nitro? Hopefully you were referring to nitromethane and not nitrous. Haven't we had this discussion before?:impatient :impatient

I think isellem may disagree with you on that one.

When are one of these twin charge street cars going to hit 400 hp? Who will make it there first?

 

Please do get a video up and running... top quality + long and exciting

More TC'd guys out there?

 

I have no inside info, just stating a fact that none of the other twincharge kits have posted data. I thought everyone knew that SPI has continually posted info. I guess I should have made that more clear. Sorry to cause such confusion.

 

I only did it so you'd have somethign to post about! LOL



yes he prolly would...LOL...to answer your question...When I can afford it...wanna sponsor me?! LOL...El Diablito is the closest...he is running 375 WHP right now....DANG IT!! LOL....

 

Hi, I am joining the crowd of TC. I have been following the TC ever since I bought the car a few years ago. I just purchased the Alta Kit. I am only looking to do around 250whp & thats it( famous last words), so I felt this was the most resonable way to get around to it. I am not new to Turbo vehicles & have always preferred them over the SC. The SC is nice, but a turbo just gives the illusion of that rubber band snapping back.

I would like to have the kit installed by the end of march & then I will be able to give some feedback on the kit itself. I will be doing the install myself as this isnt the 1st turbo kit, just the smallest. Right now I am putting in a new flywheel/stage 3 clutch & Quiafe lsd in prep for the added power. Other than that, the car is pretty much stock w/exception to an Alta exhaust & swaybar. I have a new head sitting in the shop that I may send out for some work, but prolly not b4 the install of the TC.

Just as a note, this is my fun spare car that I only drive when I want to smile or if my other vehicle is down for upgrades. This is a fair weather vehicle, so I figured it would be safe to play around with the TC on it.

Tuls I am sure I will be picking your brain in the near future if you dont mind! You seem to be pretty positive about the whole TC & pretty knowledgable to boot!

Thanks!

Cole

 

if possible could the people who have a twincharge setup post their technical details, and be as specific as possible,
what kit you have,
how long have you the kit installed (time or mileage)
what level of power you are at,
what other mods you have to compliment your twin setup,
what size injectors,
what size pulley on your SC,
what level of boost you are running and how you control that level,
what grade of fuel you use,
what equiptment/software you have installed for tuning,
and anything else relevant,
it would help us who are going the tc route to decide and prepare,
most importantly what problems came with twincharging and what you did to fix them,
problems aint a bad thing as they help the rest of us understand and avoid them.

 

I asked this earlier but no one really answered. I too would like to know. Surely people have other kits than just the SPI kit. The SPI kit seems to be the favorite on this board...

 

I have the FTR kit (formally known as the SPI kit for now LOL)
295 WHP 275 TQ 24lbs of boost on 91 octane
have pistons
boost controled by acuator attached to turbo
AFC comes with the kit for tuning
the kit also comes with proper sized injectors and intercooler which are both important for this kind of mod

 

I knew you would be first Tuls fair play thanks,
what size are your injectors?
how long have you been running with the kit? (time or mileage)
is your fuel system stock apart from the injectors?