yea it was the others that talked to him not me, i love the fact he made this, its super rare to see twincharged cars and they stir up tons of people love the people that tell me its impossible

but i have not one bad thing to say about anybody

just what i was told thats all, its tuff trying to diagnoss something over the phone anywho

thats why i just posted the link
theirs other post than mine

hey im the guy who loves everybody here, so sorry if it sounded like i was doging hubie, i wasnt, i was just saying they couldent come to a fix for his probs they incountered

every car will act differentley to the same mod sometimes so sometimes its a tuff call to come up with a fix unless your their

its driving now so all i know is hes happy

 

right on..

 

the second kit Hubie sold, his own being the first, he told me was a bother since the driver loved to hear the wastegate noise. he would get on the gas, then slam it shut to hear the whoosh. made the engine jump around trying to deal with 200ft-lbs and then 0 torque. anything can be abused.

 

Yet, this would not sideline a stock or likely even a 15% and all the goodies car, I'm really inclined to believe. So, to say that it's a simple plug and play or even just to market it without condition is to ignore this fact.

I mean no offense in so saying. To play, you gotta pay. But, YOU GOTTA PAY, sometimes.

 

well from what i know zack drives pretty normal no different than anybody else i know, he ownes a evo 8 so hes no stranger to the turbo, and the sound it makes, jees i wont post anymore since its obviouse people dont like to hear bad things about this kit, so lets all look at it with rose colored glasses. just beacause you some wont drive it hard wont mean others wont so im pointing out the issues some people may come across

 

only weight reduction is removal of back seats... plus this is a non sunroof car. NO LSD.

Your can still launch gradually you just have to learn your clutch alittle.. you will get their. its not impossible! It just takes time and practice...

 

Jlm was just pointing out that some things are behind curtains or false walls if I may put it that way. Not everything is pointed out when having a conversation with someone.. not that it could be the case with you.. you get my point?

My engine mounts were changed out (2 of them since the 3rd wasn't available) and I only have around 86,000 kms on it. Abuse can be understood differently.. I drive my cars at a certain standard or level and I expect them to live up to it. If they don't then I fix it.. hopefully until now I haven't blown a motor, diff, gear box.

Send me a kit and I'll put it to the test.. If it withstands my driving style, I'll give it the "uae mini" ISO standard
A few people can tolerate my driving at first glance, but trust me to keep them alive In my brother's words "why take the kinds to the theme park, just let them ride with uae mini"

 

ohh believe me... their is a twin charged (non-spi kit) car coming to life as we speak that will be put "through the test"

If their is a week link on the car... we are going to find it!

Hopefully she all stays together though... it should...

 

It's already been discussed on NAM ...

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=46902

 

people who twin charge should plan on getting new motormounts and pistons... becaue if you are just looking to get 220-250 hp... just do the basics... intake, header, exhaust, pulley and cylinder head... its an amazing combo! Great torque and hp... dead reliable and still looks very very stock! you don't ever have to worry about reliabilty... you could easily run 24 hr enduros with combo

 

yea the reason why i posted that was to show are club members reaction since they knew about the car and driver and knew of the probs first hand thats all, its more on a personal scale

 

Didn't Hubie or someone else drive their twincharged MCS cross country and have something like 20-30k miles on it? Bottom line, every MCS is built differently so it's ignorant to say the twincharge kit will affect every MCS the same way. But overall, I think the stage 1 kits with 250whp are reliable. If you don't think so, then add pistons and an intercooler and leave the boost the same so you maintain those same 250whp. After you pass the 250whp mark you begin to run risks, although I will go that route one day and hopefully pull 300-330whp with an SPI or Alta Stage 2+ it may not be for everyone. People who just flat out believe the twincharge kits to be unreliable don't know the facts and are just negative...

Tuls, can you do me a favor and post your dyno results in this thread, I know their somewhere on here showing your 295whp... Anyone else who has dyno'd their twincharged MCS please post your dyno. Also, does anyone have videos of the twincharge on the street?

Edit: Nevermind I already got your dyno.

 

Oh and about my 19% pulley. I'm not an idiot, I will revert back to the stock pulley when I go twincharge. Or if I go with Alta's kit I will use their bigger pulley...

Edit: And let's try and keep this thread on-topic and please don't start flaming or anything that will get this thread locked. I think this thread is informative so far and can continue to be so for those who are interesting in going the twincharge route or just interested in what the twincharge can do. Thanks!

 

i would suggest starting a new thread maybe even a "sticky" one for twin charged dynos...

also... i would be carefull going to the larger pulley... lets just say their have been tests done... but im sure they have tests to say otherwise...

 

please explain this,
I am going the twincharge route eventually and at the moment I am doing my research, so when I hear something like this I need to know the full story,
if you dont want to discuss it here can you pm it to me.

 

I think isellem is talking about larger crank drive pullies, but I could be wrong. I thought the reason for using a larger supercharger pulley in the twincharge kits isto decrease the boost on the supercharger and create more boost from the turbo. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I think he was talking about our larger SC pulley, not the crank pulley. He was removing the small 19%er for the plus size one we have. Which are selling separately. (for all those TC guys that don't have our kit). We should have some dyno number laters this week on one of our customers cars running 250+WHP.

 

In the FWIW catagory:

I just got my Mini back from Helix this weekend with a brand-new Turbokompressor setup. First, awesome power! I dove from Philly to Pittsburgh (~300 miles) through a snow storm. When I got home the whole front of the Mini was a solid piece of ice. Despite this, I had no trouble whatsoever. My only problem is that the roads are too crappy to go out and play.:impatient

 

how much is the oversize pulley and what size is it?
what does the SC put out with this pulley?
dont see it listed on your website?

 

The reason there is no info on the board about these kits is there is no hard data from the vendors. They are selling kits that have not even been tested fully.

 

How did you come up with this conclusion? Where is your hard evidence?
I remember SPI testing there kit thoroughly... Do you have insider info?

 

I am suprised you made such a bold statment...there is TONS of hard evidence from SPI/FTR dating back to 2002....I noticed most of the old stuff has been erased from these boards...however, no biggie as there has been MUCH posted in the last few months...

maybe other vendors have not posted much info...but if you check from the SPI/FTR side...there is MUCH...even from me alone...

Alta released thier kit a few months ago...and as they have had reports they have posted them...

 

Agreed. This is the reason why I went with the SPI kit. I decided to get (although I didn't round up the cash until Sep 05 to do the actual purchase and install) their kit back at the end of 2004 because there already had been a years worth of data on the company owner's personal MCS. At that time, there wasn't anything on the market that had that many months and miles of testing. At the time of my purchase there had been just shy of two years of data.

 

I agree, there is/was alot of info about the SPI kit. Most of it got deleted when El Diablito got banned, it's a shame they had to get rid of all the info about the SPI kit as well. However this is what I am trying to avoid. I want to have all the info about the twincharge kits available in this one thread so that people may look at it for future reference. As more info becomes available from the different kits I will be updating my 1st post. I already have proof of the SPI Stg 2 making a solid 296WHP on a mustang dyno. After all, that's what we want right, PROOF of the numbers to go along with the data that has been collected. One more thing, @ those with TC setups, please post what kit you have, how much power you have, how long you've had it installed (miles), and if you've had any problems, if so, what. Thanks!

@ isellem, I was talking about the larger SC pulley, which would mean less boost for the SC and more boost from the Turbo

 

BTW admins and mods... I vote for a STICKY