I have a 2004 MCS with a JCW intake. Is it possible through adding a pulley, GIAC, Injectors and Exhaust to get the car to run to 60 in the 5's? I am not concerned with HP numbers, just keeping up with some of the other big dogs in the straights as well as the twisties.

 

with all the wheel spinning, I doubt a MCS can get into the 5 seconds range...

Maybe the twincharged MCS can achieve those nombers... And maybe GeTrac AWD MCS too.

 

Not even close.

 

LSD, drag slicks, most likely you'll need nitrous, and VERY good reaction times you might be able to squeeze for 5.9

and that is on a VERY hot pavement, very cool weather, and zero humidity, and NO heat soak

obiviously, all of these will never happen

 

Gtech reported 0-60 at 6.22 secs. Repeatable too. I calibrated the thing to my MINI's weight. Not a bad number - not sure if the Gtech is over-optimistic. I've got 15 percent pulley, JCW Intake, and GIAC software.

 

LOL over-optimistic is an understatement

 

kaelariaLOL over-optimistic is an understatement

so off by how much then? I think it's accurate considering that most magazines can zoom to 0-60 in 6.7 secs.

 

i have a question, i have yet to mod (soon) so idk, but when i hear people saying they are taking evos and 350's and stuff, how is this possible with the 0-60 times we get, does a modded mini make up for it that much once it gets going that it can pull on them?

 

AWD = killer launch. FWD with better power/weight than the AWD cars = better roll-on acceleration.

 

chances are these people are being a bit optimistic in their experiences as well. Beating an EVO in a mini is gonna be rough without modding your car to a crazy extent....it just isnt going to happen(unless the other driver is terrible).

There seem to be people who think the MINI can beat anything....they just missed the fact that its not exactly considered "fast" amongst cars like EVO's, Sti's or even SRT4's....we have other great things, but out accelerating those cars isnt one of them.

 

ah ha makes sense

 

You had one good point, it is not about the hp, of course you will need an extra juice there, however, after a point you need shorter gear ratios, competiton clucth...etc.

 

I think it's entirely possible to slice off .8 secs and not have to go entirely insane with the mods. I have nothing to back this up but it is a goal of mine to get Icarus to a sub 6 someday. I have my idea-ers but time, a good chunk of money and a lot of trial and error will tell.

Surely someone has accomplished this? Beuhler?

 

A stock 05 with good tires (T1R) on light wheels and a good driver will run a constant 6.7 - 6.6. I have seen this many times.

I assume an intake + exhaust + 15% pulley will bring it down to the high 5's.

no?

 

Yes.

I have seen a GGR (Graham Goode Racing = 205crank bhp) MCS with the back seats out run a 5.9secs, officially timed and certified as well

With my car, I would guess I could get it in the 5.7-5.8 range with the LSD, seeing that I ran a 6.2 with 206bhp at Trax about 18 months ago (no LSD then).

Once on a roll, my car will reel in and overtake STI 8 PPP cars (300bhp) with relative ease, so no trouble there either once away from the lights

Henry

 

You assume wrong. I have an '05, light wheels, sticky tires, JCW intake, 15% pulley, cold plugs, mth tuner. It's faster than stock for sure, but only gets 6.0 0-60 on stalker radar.


People like to think the Mini is some supercar...well, it's not. It's cool, handles well, comfy...but it's not a drag car, never will be. It's a very small engine, and so are the gains from modding it. Face it, let it go people.

Here's one of my toys...we radar everything...our cars, boats, jetskis...even r/c cars (the fastest things yet we've done - lol)!

 

Motor Trend Magazine recorded a 0-60 time of 6.4 seconds in a stock 05 MCS without LSD.

 

You know, some of you clearly have NO CLUE what it takes to make up time. It's not even worth it...have fun keyboard modding your cars into the 4 second range - hell all it takes is removing the carpeting and the passenger seat...

 

Well there you go folks. Kaeleria says it can't be done so everyone just stop trying.

I've found one thing to be true over time and that's don't tell someone something can't be done. -as he rolls up his sleeves and knuckles down-

 

[QUOTE=kaelaria]People like to think the Mini is some supercar...well, it's not. It's cool, handles well, comfy...but it's not a drag car, never will be. It's a very small engine, and so are the gains from modding it. Face it, let it go people.
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Dont worry, I'm perfectly aware the mini is not some supercar. We are not saying it will run 0-60 in 3.2, we are talking about 5.9 which Soooo far from supercar territory.

Yes, some people here like to think their car is some kind of crazy sports car, just have a look at the 911 turbo thread...

Some people dont have much experiance with real performance oriented cars.

Anyways, I maintain my point that a GOOD DRIVER with a pulley, sticky tires, intake and exhaust can do it in under 6.

 

Kaeleria- does your car have the factory LSD?

 

I didn't say it can't be done. Just not with a meare intake/exhaust, ecu and pulley. Nor does a LSD make up .5 seconds. Nor does removing a rear seat make up any huge difference.

 

Nope.

 

For all of its positive attributes, the MIN kinda sucks at launching. My 60-ft times are about 0.2 seconds slower than they were in my GTI 1.8T (which ran very similar 1/4 mile times). I suspect it when weight transfer occurs during launch, the MINI shifts more weight to the rear tires than most cars do (suspension travel, spring rates, etc?). Check it out, I believe all of the guys under 2.2s were on drag radials:

http://www.ross-tech.net/andy/mini/d...artermile.html

 

Oh I'm not fooling myself that an intake/exhaust, ecu and pulley will do it. It's gonna take much more. Is it worth it? Depends on who you're asking. Why do it? Because I can and I wanna. Now I want to throw this on top of it all. I'm going to do it with a cabriolet!