Andy, how would you compare the 15% and Giac to the 19% w/o the Giac?

 

The 19% with stock definitely makes more low-end torque (considerably more boost) but top end is a toss up. I'd have to see dyno tests to know for sure, but the 15%/GIAC feels happier at high RPM than the 19%/stock.

 

M7 reports that they have had success with their re-valved 400cc injectors. That is a good setup because they use the stock sized injectors with the right connectors, etc. One of the M7 cars runs the 400s without any software adjustment, and they report that there is no problems whatsoever. If one of you Socal boys with a 19% wants to get those injectors from Peter, I could probably arrange for a tuning session at GIAC in Irvine.

There is a slight risk of spray pattern problems with re-valved injectors which makes me want to find a factory OEM injector which fits, and is affordable. I've got the perfect ones in the shop, the only problem is that they are $150 apiece. Yesterday I got a line on some less expensive ones, so I will be investigating them over the next week.

 

Eric,


I wonder which injectors the new JCW kit uses. What size are the new JCW injectors.

 

Our local dealer doesn't have a part number for them yet, but that's definitely another option.

 

Hey, Eric.......thanks again for the chip! My Mini has alot more 'get up and go' and the transmission is smooooooth.......like all it wants is to go faster. The response that I'm feeling is at least as nice as adding a 15% pulley. Also, the middle position on the sway bar works great. The way this car rides now
is beyond any expectations I may have had when I got it and with some help from Helix it only took two years to get it this way.......far out! Just don't go anywhere without letting me know.

Herb

 

According to the reply I got to my email to John Cooper Garages ... "delivery has gone from 265cc per minute to 282cc per minute".

 

So that's basically window dressing, no? The aftermarket ones are 400cc+. That's a 50% increase. The JCW is increasing the size of the injectors by 6%???? I guess the JCW ones won't cut it for the GIAC.

 

Andy, what prompted you to leave the 19@ crowd?

In changing it, do you raise the engine to change it out? What is the secret for quick and easy?

 

Did the progress stop on the 19+injectors?

 

Nope. I'm headed to California in two weeks to install it in a car and dyno test, so it better be done.

 

If you get a chance when you return, also give us an update on the plug-in module (versus shipping the ECU) if this is still in the plans.

TIA, Jeff

 

I'll see Garrett today, and will ask.

 

Any official update on the state of the-

GIAC for 19%: How much more HP and torque will it add if one already has the 19% pulley?

How much is the current price on the new factory Siemens 380cc injectors?
Any deals out there?

Any update for the GIAC USB version with cables? Cost and availability?

Given larger fuel injectors, does this overtax the fuel pump capability?

Is there any concern about the MINI's cooling system keeping up with added heat from the 19% pulley/GIAC and larger fuel injectors?

If one upgrades to the 17% pulley then can one add only the GIAC for 17% or are larger fuel injectors needed like the 19% for satisfactory/optimal power gains from GIAC?

Thanks for any info,

 

I'll give these my best shot until Helix responds...

It IS available.

6-9 torque and hp although I didn't dyno my MINI. Unfortunately, I needed some other things done while I was there and I didn't have a lot of time.

$110 bucks a cylinder. Not cheap. But the combo (19%, GIAC & injectors) blows away ANY other mod combos out there (exceptions: Twincharged and nitrous).

No. Not yet. Hopefully he'll be able to find some low-cost, high quality injectors soon. I tried but I couldn't wait any longer.

I don't think the cable is ready yet but it should be soon. Right now you can have it installed by shipping your ECU (I believe) or making a trip to Helix.

I don't know the answer to this but I'd imagine the answer is no. The twincharged kit uses 500cc injectors. I think the GIAC uses 380cc. I think that is only 15-20% larger than stock.

No! This is the best part! With the GIAC and larger injectors, the MINI actually runs RICHER at the top end. Sick power with LOWER cylinder temps! What a combo! I'm told the difference in the summer will be even greater!

Don't know. I don't know a whole lot about the 17%.

 

I have finally posted my review! Check it out...
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=35752

 

I talked to Eric at Helix13 and here's what I found.

$115 per injector for now and maybe a lower price in the future- Helix is trying to secure a cheaper source for the same new factory injectors.

Fuel pump capability is ample for the larger fuel injectors- no problem.

With the upgrades the MINI engine runs cooler so no problem with the cooling system. Hey, just get an M7 thermostat- keep that engine cool.

For MCS owners, you can add the 17% pulley/smaller belt alone and that's OK. But like the 19% pulley if you add GIAC you'll need the larger fuel injectors to make the upgrade worth it.

 

what can be expected by adding the bigger injectors or the JCW injectors to a 15%/GIAC equipped car? not much, if anything at all or will results be along the lines with the '05 JCW kit? also if i got the GIAC to go along with my 15% and i did decide to do JCW or other injectors would the GIAC need to be retuned at Helix on the dyno to be optimized?

 

You should only use larger injectors if you have ECU programming specifically tuned for those injectors. So I would highly recommend AGAINST adding larger injectors to a 15%/GIAC unless GIAC made a specially tuned ECU for that.

 

At 100 to 115$ per injector makes the JCW upgrade package a bargain.

You get the airbox for about 100-130$ :D

Thank god for connections.

Alex

 

Any word???

http://www.helix13.com/html/products...ew.php?p=6&h=m

"Soon GIAC will release their proprietary smart cable: putting file switching capabilities in the drivers' hands. This will allow the user to switch from various files that GIAC will provide, including stock, chipped, race gas, and valet mode (for those irresponsible drivers in your life). Those who buy the flash at an authorized GIAC dealer will, as always, get free updates (some dealers charge a nominal installation fee)."

 

My vote is for an honorary 7th gear.
See here: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...9&postcount=28

I certainly hope the flashloader will be available and after seeing how the Grand National crowd shares maps online I can see how piracy can be an issue. But Franz seems to use a method of "activation" in MTH, and I am sure Garrett could do the same. Otherwise we will start seeing people upload their GIAC to Franz just so they can reflash it themselves!
(Or to add extra features like traction control/DSC desensitization while keeping the maps unchanged)

 

Thanks. In that case shouldn't helix update their site?

It must be possible to allow for end users to flash their own ECU, haven't APR been doing this for a while on VAG cars now?

 

Just did. Thanks and sorry.


BTW: JCW injectors are $105 apiece.