Moss mini adverstises in their brochure that a Screamin' Demon Hi-Coil Pack along with some plug wires can bring down your 0-60 time by 1 second. Has anyone had experience with this, is it true and how will the results look like with intake and 19% pulley? Also I'd like to know how hard it is to install the coil pack and what I'm looking at to pay a mechanic to do it.

Thanks for your input,
Lukee

 

I believe that is a bit of a wildly optimistic overstatement.

It would require at least 4 to 5 stickers and a big knockoff-Evo wing to add that performance.

 

Carbon-fiber-look stickers?

 

If a coil pack and wires lowered your 0-60 by 0.2 secs I'd be shocked. Even 0.1 sec and I'd probably be shocked. In other words, don't believe 'em.

 

I remember a song from church camp that went something like this:

"It only takes a spark to get a fire going. . . ."

The combustion chain reaction that takes place inside the engine is going to take place no matter how much you have boosted your plasma or somehow increased the size of the spark with a high performance coil pack. Perhaps there is something to be gained, but don't expect to feel it or see it on the dyno.

You could try an experiment at home. Pour a glass of gasoline on your driveway, throw a lit match at it and observe the resulting explosion. Next, pour the same amount of gas out but this time throw 10 lit matches at it and see if the explosion is any greater. . . .

Of course, don't do this!

 

lukee,

Aloha and welcome to NAM.

You will read lots of claims of gains in performance at any auto site.
Ask yourself if the claims made sense. If it was that good why are we not talking about adding it to every MINI. Or what other types of mods would offer similar improvement in a 0-60 time.

So far we have little objective evidence that any ignition mod, wires, plugs, coil or plasma booster has done anything significant that is measureable in a reliable way on dyno. Some people have noticed a little smoother engine response with some upgrades but if it is raw power you seek for an ultra fast 0-60 then it's not coming from a coil pack.

I'd save ignition upgrades for the last mods to do. Wheels and suspension are better bets for handling, cornering and fun which is the MINI's strength. Raw speed is not. (unless you could chop of about 400 pounds).

 

Too late

 

When I was 10 and my brother was 13, he poured about a half gallon of gasoline into a tin garbage can lid in the driveway...then lit it! Then paniced. Then kicked the lid under my dad's truck! Holy mother of fire! Nobody got hurt. (and my father was a fireman!)
...and then, this one time, at band camp...

 

We have never seen ANY horsepower or torque from any ignition device on our dyno. We have tested just about every ignition product out there, to no avail.

btw in my many years of experience, I find that Pyrodex musket gunpoweder ignites trash cans faster than gasoline.

 

Damn, if that man doesn't know his pulley's AND musket *****!

 

Does red make me look fat?

 

Hey everybody, I just got that screamin' demon coil pack from MOSSMINI. (Was looking for an easy catch for a mod, always looking for some excuse to install something on the MINI.) Anyway, first the install for those of you who want to know: Basically you just find the little connector on the back side of the current coil pack and install the plug wires in the exact same location as the old pack. Use a socket set or wrench to undo the four bolts that attach it to the engine block. There is a little red tab in the connector for the electrical system that you need to pry out with a pair of channel locks or needlenose pliers (just like on the oil pressure wiring harness). After that you just push down on the tab for the connector and slide off. Next, install the connector on the new coilpack, install red clip and install all four bolts back to engine block. Thats it. (A note of advice, put all four bolts through the new coilpack and install the four rubber bushings on the underside of the coilpack before tightening the bolts.) First impressions: I do notice a somewhat big difference in the response above 85mph, especially in the 90 to 120 mph range. Normally the engine would somewhat slow down at 90, sort of like a little power hump to get over at that range. Now the engine does not hesitate to give power in the higher range and does not studder any above 90. A steady stream of acceleration in the higher rpms. Which in my mind makes sense. Don't you use more electricity if the spark plugs are having to do extra work in that higher range of output? I'm not one of those people that add spark plugs and say my car goes faster, and there probably are NOT any hp gains. But its a good buy IMHO. Fact. Why don't you see if someone has one, temporarily install it (don't tighten the bolts) and take it for a spin?

 

Was that in 2nd gear or third?
Nice to live in an area where you don't need a G-Force to check ur mods.


No, Eric, its the Flack Jacket.

 

You look like Hans...or is it Franz. You look PUMPed!

 

fat legs

 

Nah...he dresses left!

 

Hi McCullster,

Welcome to NAM. I'm sure we're all glad that you feel you get a power increase at higher rpm's. As you can see from the above posts, just don't expect too many people here to say too many good things about electronic ignition mods. It appears the MINI ignition is already fairly well designed so that improvements are minimal and do not appear to be easily measurable. But welcome aboard and have fun with your MINI!

 

McCullster,
Aloha from Hawaii and welcome to NAM. Glad to hear you are doing well with your recent upgrade. I had the Screamin Demon coil pack installed in the past and noted no difference in performance for my MCS but I did not do much testing in the 90 to 120 mph range. The speed limit in my area is about 45 to 55.


I'm back to a stock ignition system save for some colder plugs but that isn't doing anything I can feel either. Maybe I should do some testing at 100 mph just to be sure I haven't missed out.

 

 

Sorry guys, I said power hump as in electrical power hump. Not horsepower hump........

 

I recently tried to install the coilpack and can't figure out that red clip. Can someone please give a more detailed procedure of how to get it on. Also, does anyone know what to torque new spark plugs to? Thanks

 

then take a thin bladed screw driver and press down on the crack between the red tab and the connector body. Dont press hard, just hard enough to get some bite. Twist the screwdriver.... If you have a really small screwdriver and small hands, you can press the tab to the passenger side by pushing on the bottom of the tab from the driver side.....

Have fun! It's a pain the first time, then it's easy every other time. FWIW, almost every connector (maybe even every) has some sort of lock on it. These tabs pop up every now and then.

Matt

 

Torque your plugs to 24lbs.

 

ive also noticed that it takes much longer for the engine to crank over when starting since i installed the plugs, wires, and coil...could it be from the clip not being on right (still cant figure it out) or could i have done something else wrong? please help

 

then the plug is fine. Harder starting may be from the wrong gap. But I dont' really know there. Is it all back together and running?

It's raining now, or I'd just go snap you some photos.... If it clears I'll be happy to!

Matt