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Drivetrain Success ! JCW Engine + Big Hybrid turbo into MCS

Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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Success ! JCW Engine + Big Hybrid turbo into MCS

I switched out DV and MAP sensor on my engine swapped MCS, and now it works great!

Pulls like a slingshot -- I've never driven a FWD that felt this quick. In traffic, it feels faster than my Porsche, once it's in boost at least.

Now I gotta do the suspension for AX this spring. Anyone have a recommendation for rough road capable coilovers?

Here's my final drivetrain setup, running well.

2011 JCW Engine
JMTC E45HP Turbo, ported on hotside to match DP flange
Ported JCW exhaust manifold
2.5" catless DP
JCW MAP sensor
stock MCS DV (BOV)
No name big intercooler
intercooler noise suppressor replaced with straight pipe
Alta AP running stage 3 octane 92 map
JCW clutch

Everything else is stock 2007 MCS.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:29 PM
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Congrats! I would say if you really want to unlock the potential in your MINI, I'd suggest hitting up Battle Tuning to get you a proper tune, not something reloaded...
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:37 PM
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Best coil overs for rough roads would be Ohlins road and track.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jkapinos
Best coil overs for rough roads would be Ohlins road and track.
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:43 PM
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Video if some sort needed I think
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:57 PM
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Sounds great. Do you have any dyno numbers

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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 06:29 PM
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Will be installing similar setup to my JCW this week. How's the turbo lag?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TazMinianDevil
Will be installing similar setup to my JCW this week. How's the turbo lag?
Nothing, nothing, something, something, whoaaah! (traction control)

Going to move to fatter, sticker tires. Also, the bombed out 160k suspension's gotta be replaced with something, anything better. Will look into the Ohlins.

Will shoot some video once I get her all cleaned up.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ra2fanatic
Congrats! I would say if you really want to unlock the potential in your MINI, I'd suggest hitting up Battle Tuning to get you a proper tune, not something reloaded...
Yes, definitely interested in a proper tune for my frankenMINI, will be reaching out to them.

AP Stage 3 isn't bad though, but it is laggy and jarring when the boost hits.I need to log my AFRs to see what's really happening.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 11:37 PM
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Ha. Sounds great. Congratulations on the swap. I, for one, was definitely skeptical that you would make it work out. In this case, glad to be proven wrong.

So there's a record for people who want to do this in future, all you did to get it working was swap the MAP to resolve the boost cuts?

Please report back if you have and solve any other issues. Like the others, also curious if you ever put it on a dyno.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 11:41 PM
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I have only gotten it up and running the past day, but will be learning more as I go. Going to tackle running gear and tires next. A dyno will happen once I'm ready to look into a new tune.

Planning to make it a DD+AX car.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rhygin
Ha. Sounds great. Congratulations on the swap. I, for one, was definitely skeptical that you would make it work out. In this case, glad to be proven wrong.

So there's a record for people who want to do this in future, all you did to get it working was swap the MAP to resolve the boost cuts?

Please report back if you have and solve any other issues. Like the others, also curious if you ever put it on a dyno.
and yeah, it was the MAP and DV swap that took care of the problem. Yes, yes, I know that doesn't isolate the issue, but I will swap the MAP again next time I open the hood and can tell you which one was the problem.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 01:42 PM
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How about a quick video from your cellphone as you crank that sucker up? Definitely take your time in selecting a tune/tuner though. GL.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dodgyparker
I switched out DV and MAP sensor on my engine swapped MCS, and now it works great!

Pulls like a slingshot -- I've never driven a FWD that felt this quick. In traffic, it feels faster than my Porsche, once it's in boost at least.

Now I gotta do the suspension for AX this spring. Anyone have a recommendation for rough road capable coilovers?

Here's my final drivetrain setup, running well.

2011 JCW Engine
JMTC E45HP Turbo, ported on hotside to match DP flange
Ported JCW exhaust manifold
2.5" catless DP
JCW MAP sensor
stock MCS DV (BOV)
No name big intercooler
intercooler noise suppressor replaced with straight pipe
Alta AP running stage 3 octane 92 map
JCW clutch

Everything else is stock 2007 MCS.
hi,
Which map sensor did you swiched?
it's the tmap sensor on hardpipe or the map sensor on intake?
Thanks!
 
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 06:39 AM
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if you don't "need" coilovers and you drive the car as somewhat dd i'd just get swift springs and some bilstein struts. unless u don't drive in the winter.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 06:11 AM
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Any update here?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 12:03 PM
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Sorry, been busy. Hit a pothole that took out my passenger side tie rod!


Car is running ok around town, very quick once on boost. Highway kind of sucks though, the AP stage 1 tune I'm running has a nasty boost cut that pops up when you go WOT in higher gears. Almost a bit dangerous because it feels as if it's hitting a brick wall.

I am looking into getting a proper tune done once I get the suspension fixed.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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Just to make sure, are you sure it's the tune? Typically the boost cuts are a result of problems with the ECU boost requested/received, not a function of the tune (that's usually what people mean).

Could this be similar to problems others have had when they install a larger turbo? Seems strange that the boost would be tuned to cut-out that abruptly by anyone.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 01:07 PM
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rhygin
Just to make sure, are you sure it's the tune? Typically the boost cuts are a result of problems with the ECU boost requested/received, not a function of the tune (that's usually what people mean).

Could this be similar to problems others have had when they install a larger turbo? Seems strange that the boost would be tuned to cut-out that abruptly by anyone.
Not really sure what causes it, but talking to a few tuners about their solutions. Will post once I've decided who to try out.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 01:24 PM
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Post some pictures of the car and engine bay when you get a chance. This is gonna be a cool site to see.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dodgyparker
Not really sure what causes it, but talking to a few tuners about their solutions. Will post once I've decided who to try out.
Cool. Still hoping for you to be successful. Keep us posted.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RobMuntean
Post some pictures of the car and engine bay when you get a chance. This is gonna be a cool site to see.
Not really.... it looks bone stock, with the exception of the intake and intercooler. Everything else done to the car is visually identical to what was in there before, just new looking.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 05:09 AM
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Hi - This all sounds quite interesting :-). I googled your turbo and read up the website. If I understand correctly, your turbo has a standard sized exhaust housing and standard exhaust turbine wheel, but comes with a more efficient inlet wheel which is billet? I was looking at going for one that had the larger exhaust housing and turbine wheel, which in terms of the website is called their, K04. Best of luck with your project :-)

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Old May 4, 2014 | 09:47 PM
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I had a K04 turbo on my 09 JCW and then switched to the E45. Dynoed the K04 to approx. 245 bhp with my Ultimate Chip. It felt fast. When I switched to the E45, it feels like less power but have not dyno'd it. Looking for my Battle Tune stage 3 soon and 3" exhaust to get my power back.
 
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