No one has asked what affect this might have on the car? Since we don't know what it does or how it is made up, will it have any affects? Just because 30 people tried it out and it has worked well over the weekend and the fact that it is free doesn't necessarily make this a benign product. I am not saying it will have a negative affect, but since we don't know much about it except for pictures, does anyone with more knowledge on this (i.e maxmini, Ryephile, Andy), have any thoughts on this?

I have always liked the products from M7 (maybe not the PB but pretty much everything else), while I wouldn't purchase all of them, I have to give him an A for different innovative products that no one else is selling. I really like my Ultimate Grill that I have. Most of the bad publicity that M7 gets is because of the information release associated with his products. Some times they are introduced on the side from members that spend time with him, or other times they are big posts with pictures, but not always much follow up with detail. Detail that this community asks for a lot. He has always been real helpful to me over the phone and seems like a great guy. I think a lot of the barrier stems around communication. It seems like his most ardent supporters are from the SoCal area, which are individuals that he spends time with on such things as the Canyon runs. I think the face-to-face contact probably goes a long way and people are able to look at his products first hand and try them out. For the 90% of the rest of the country that can't see his products on a regular basis, communication is key. Earlier posts about this product in comparison with some of the more detailed posts that members such as Ryephile or Randy provide show a difference in styles. It would be nice to see more detailed posts and more details on products from Peter and M7. This is just my observation. I hope Peter continues to provide high quality products for the Mini community, while enhancing the communication for most of us who can't hang around his products or see them in action.

I will be looking forward to the feedback from the other customers on this product.

 

>>Saw something similar in the vwvortex forums where they installed a valve to restrict the vacuum signal for the exhaust system on the R32. Seems like it would work well here and offer some adjustability.
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>>http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1391899
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>> can this void the warrenty???also why do you want to reduce vacuumcan this hurt anything???

 

Wow its been awhile since I've anxiously awaited a Mail man, but I am f-in stok'd about this one. So simple, I am imagining a lot smaller diameter hose, but put inside the stock piece so it looks original. It would cause the same action as changing the spring only a lot simpler....... good stuff guys.

 

this mod seems to just slows the rate that the pressure builds....as long still gets to do what its supposed to, should not hurt a thing. Its simply "Marvelous". :smile:

 

>>this mod seems to just slows the rate that the pressure builds....as long still gets to do what its supposed to, should not hurt a thing. Its simply "Marvelous". :smile:
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Slow the rate? or speed the rate. If it slows the rate it would decrease the rate of acceleration, wouldn't it?

 

As I understand it, it should speed the rate. The bypass is activated by vacume, so if you have less vacume then the bypass will not open and the supercharger will come into play quicker, due to less vacume to hold the valve open. That's what I got form all the postings on this and other threads, heck I could be in left field.

 

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>>Slow the rate? or speed the rate. If it slows the rate it would decrease the rate of acceleration, wouldn't it?
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sorry about that, I meant that it seems to slow down the rate that the pressure builds in the valve that actuates the bypass valve, not the manifold itself. If your more confused now, I apologize again, like I said in previous post, I'm ready to go home and start trying some thangs, like slowley choke that tube to see if what I'm thinking is right.

 

Anyone have the inter diameter of the "device" M7 is using??

 

You guys who are complaining about them not divulging the specifications of the "mod" crack me up. IT'S FREE, send an envelope and you don't need to go fish it out in a hardware store. $.74 is all it's going to cost you, you'll spend more gas driving to and from the hardware store in your MCS so either stop your crying or send your envelope. Sheesh.

 

>>I understand. Thanks for your consideration anyway.


Andy, haven't you ordered plenty of stuff through the mail already? I'm sure your address is already on lots of mailing list. What's M7 gonna do with yours? Take a chance

 

>>>>I understand. Thanks for your consideration anyway.
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>>Andy, haven't you ordered plenty of stuff through the mail already? I'm sure your address is already on lots of mailing list. What's M7 gonna do with yours? Take a chance


I was hoping M7 would just send it to him to eliminate about 50% or more of the skeptics. It would seem to me the $0.35 from M7 would clean up the air a lot.

 

Thanks randy and M7! You guys rule, my SASE is in the mail tomorrow! Is this part easy to install btw?

-scott

 

>>Thanks randy and M7! You guys rule, my SASE is in the mail tomorrow! Is this part easy to install btw?
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>>-scott


You missed the part about bloody knuckles? You also have to remove the super charger...takes around 5 hours

 

Heheheh.... I saw the part on the bluddy knuckles, but psh... 5 hours, i was thinkin more like 6! Of course i dont know the SC unit to well, thats what i was anticipating.

 

>>Heheheh.... I saw the part on the bluddy knuckles, but psh... 5 hours, i was thinkin more like 6! Of course i dont know the SC unit to well, thats what i was anticipating. You don't have to remove the SC...just need skinny arms.

_________________

 

Psh... i was only kidding that time too!

-scott

 

>>Psh... i was only kidding that time too!
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>>-scott


16 How'd you get a Mini? The best I could swing from my parents at 18 was a $600 rust bucket...although, it was a cool Triumph rust bucket

 

Lots of hours at work and a very cool mother agreeing to the Lease.

-Scott

 

hard work deserves good favors

 

Thanks man! 20+ hours a week, $2.09 prem. gas, insurance and all those mods sure adds up! I'm a car addict. Ive got the 15% done by randy, intake and now this. I planned on getting new wheels untill my windscreen decided to snap on a spring drive 2 weekends ago. Got it fixed but now out 250!!! Little pissed about that. Had them put in the PPG to be safe, make sure nothing breaks again on any other drives.

Hopin for wheels in the next few weeks!
18 x 7.5 ASA AR1's

 

2.09 premium gas!!!! dang! guess you dont live in nor cal.

 

Nope, im in Missouri. Thats still a lot for around here!

-scott

 

wow, this thread went down hill fast.

I dont post much but have been reading this forum for a while. I like to see new products and developments for our cars, and nothing beats free. Good job to m7 for doing research and trying new things to improve our cars. And no I'm not complaing and yes I know its free, please dont remind me.

With that said, I think dgszweda1 has some legitimate concerns.
What if any effects could reducing the vacuum have on my car if i were to make this mod. I am not saying this product doesnt work, what I am saying is when I am making mods to my car it usually takes me some time to do research on the different products out there and my options. I dont want to mod the car without knowing the effects. Just trying to move us back to talking about the technical aspects of the product, which are the effects? the improvements? Even though its free, its still an adjustment to the way the car functions.

any thoughts?
thanks.

 

>>wow, this thread went down hill fast.
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>>I dont post much but have been reading this forum for a while. I like to see new products and developments for our cars, and nothing beats free. Good job to m7 for doing research and trying new things to improve our cars. And no I'm not complaing and yes I know its free, please dont remind me.
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>>With that said, I think dgszweda1 has some legitimate concerns.
>>What if any effects could reducing the vacuum have on my car if i were to make this mod. I am not saying this product doesnt work, what I am saying is when I am making mods to my car it usually takes me some time to do research on the different products out there and my options. I dont want to mod the car without knowing the effects. Just trying to move us back to talking about the technical aspects of the product, which are the effects? the improvements? Even though its free, its still an adjustment to the way the car functions.
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>>any thoughts?
>>thanks.

Hello GS thanks for the post. To be honest I thought we covered some of these questions but It may have been in the first thread which has been locked.Im not an engineer so I can not offer numbers , charts and graphs but i can tell you what it does not what the theory is.Have you driven a theory lately ? To put it as simple as I can the " device " is a reduction tube which is inserted in the rubber vacuum line connected to the by pass valve for the super charger. The " device " causes the valve to work earlier which in turn allows the super charger to begin to work sooner which usually caused the driver to smile broadly :smile: . End of story. You can have two cars side by side one with the " device " and one without and you can actually SEE the valve work more rapidly at a much lower RPM. On my car I have the BMP boost gage and the needle actually snaps to full boost where it used to climb more slowly. Some people have felt a very noticeable difference and some have not felt it quite as much but we feel that has a lot to do with the difference between various Mini's . Does it add more HP we doubt it. Does it cure the yo yo problem we don't think do but that is only based on testing on one car with severe yo yo problems. We had HOPED it might help but with just that one test we aren't seeing any relief there.Will it cause you to think you have reduced your pulley size another 10%? Of course not.We believe and so far have not been disappointed that you will feel some sort of positive change in your throttle response. Nothing more and nothing less. I don't know what else I can say at this point other than it will only cost you two stamps to find out how it will work on your personal car. We are giving this away as the cost of the " device " itself is so small that I would feel guilty charging for it. In return we are trying to build a mailing list for our own purpose of being able to send mailings of new product releases and sale coupons at some point in the future. Trust me there will never be a lot, those mailings cost a ton and we would rather spend it on development. I hope I have answered your questions regarding the effect and the improvements offered by the " device " :smile:

Randy
Team M7
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i am eagerly awaiting the arrival of my device.

i can see how that would reduce SC spooling time, but what i don't understand is, how did people note that there was an almost elimination in electronic throttle lag? i thought that was simply a function of the crappy scrappy ecu and poorly implemented drive-by-wire system.

did i miss it?

and as always, i cant wait to try it and hope for the best: increased responsiveness? who wouldnt want that?

I am also sort of worried about the gas consumption with the prices as they are now, but then again... will i care once i step on the throttle? probably not. and that's at stock!

thanks again for the thing, and i need more things to throw on my coffee table so send your catalogs. it will give me ideas (though not illegal ones, promise)