Drivetrain Madness Ripoff continues
6th Gear
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From: Laurel MD
Buy ebay when you can. It has saved me on shipping cost and if you find a good seller they usually ship from manafacturer. A good Alta distrubutor on ebay is streetrays....he does free shipping, and its usually about 10 bucks cheaper than listed on manafacturer site. Buy name brands, our minis deserve well crafted parts! Do your homework, research your mods before buying.
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just an update for all those following this thread.
1. my review of the "V2 header" never got published on the MM web site.
2. I filed a dispute with my CC company 2 weeks ago. the vendor has something like 30-45 days to respond. I haven't heard anything from the CC or from MM.
1. my review of the "V2 header" never got published on the MM web site.
2. I filed a dispute with my CC company 2 weeks ago. the vendor has something like 30-45 days to respond. I haven't heard anything from the CC or from MM.
Neutral
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From: Music City, USA
Personally I don't think George cares what is published here. Back in 09, I experienced a similar problem with a different product. MM has a slick website and quality looking products but just because a vendor is listed on NAM does not mean you should not check references with friends and other vendors. In my case I learned an my lesson. I was discussing the experience with another NAM vendor and he quickly stated he quit doing business with MM years earlier due to delivery issues and product quality. Over the years I have ordered thousands of dollars in parts from other NAM vendors without any problems or disappointments.
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1st Gear
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end of the line
Aright, well, I heard back from the cc company today. They can not rule in my favor in this dispute because I still have the product. fair enough I suppose. once again, I should have followed my instincts when I first opened the box and returned the header. so, now I'm the proud owner of a "MINI MADNESS V2 HEADER" that I paid $899 for which looks exactly like this one:
that you can get on Amazon for the bargain price of $180
This joke's on me. thanks George!
that you can get on Amazon for the bargain price of $180
This joke's on me. thanks George!
4th Gear
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From: Madison, WI
Wow, I am quite amazed at what I've been reading here, considering I bought their parallelagram-shaped Chassis Brace last year. I have not had any issues with the Chassis brace itself, but it's also a product I've heard from other NAMers as a good alternative to the X-Cross Brace.
I was considering buying their exhaust from them, but I think I'm going the Stratmosphere/Milltek route instead, although I'm still deciding.
I was considering buying their exhaust from them, but I think I'm going the Stratmosphere/Milltek route instead, although I'm still deciding.
6th Gear
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From: Laurel MD
Sadly George's customer service has gone to hell and where I once endorsed him, I no longer will. My advice is to go a different route for your exhaust. If you have a problem, there is no guarantee that he will be around for you later. Hell, he hasn't even tried to defend himself on this thread.
4th Gear
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From: Madison, WI
Sadly George's customer service has gone to hell and where I once endorsed him, I no longer will. My advice is to go a different route for your exhaust. If you have a problem, there is no guarantee that he will be around for you later. Hell, he hasn't even tried to defend himself on this thread.
The milteck/stratous is a nice sound imo...
About the deapest, non ricyest sound for a mini, and no drone. Nice choice!!
I have been on the edge trying to justify it...no just waiting for the oem to rust out!!
Nice intake too! Glad this thread is having an impact on the sales of the part involved....maybe he will chime in....
But like i said, it seems like a calculated risk....
He make $$ for years...now exposed!!
About the deapest, non ricyest sound for a mini, and no drone. Nice choice!!
I have been on the edge trying to justify it...no just waiting for the oem to rust out!!
Nice intake too! Glad this thread is having an impact on the sales of the part involved....maybe he will chime in....
But like i said, it seems like a calculated risk....
He make $$ for years...now exposed!!
4th Gear
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From: Madison, WI
Ordered from WMW, although Way contacted me just about a half-hour ago and said the Milltek wasn't available at the moment, so he suggested I switch my order to the Stratmosphere system. I just emailed him back saying I'll go for it, and he'll ship it out tomorrow then. SOOOOO exciting!!! 
Ordered from WMW, although Way contacted me just about a half-hour ago and said the Milltek wasn't available at the moment, so he suggested I switch my order to the Stratmosphere system. I just emailed him back saying I'll go for it, and he'll ship it out tomorrow then. SOOOOO exciting!!!
4th Gear
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From: Madison, WI
In the past, I've ordered from MiniMania, MossMini, OutMotoring, WMW, FastMini, and of course Madness Motorworks. I don't really have any beefs with any of those groups. OutMotoring did at one point send me the wrong Oil (wanted transmission oil, but they sent engine oil), but sending it back and exchanging it was a breeze.
Based on MY personal experiences with Madness Motorworks, I have NOT had a bad experience, but the hearing about the exhaust system got me worried. Like I said, I bought their Chassis Brace and I'm loving it, so mileage will vary for others.
Does that answer your question? Sort of?
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3rd Gear
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From: Washington State
They advertise and used to sell this product(V2)
They are now selling this for 899.00 2012-13 Ebay 200.00 (numerous vendors)
They sold this for 899.00 in 2011 Ebay 152.00(not available anymore)
There are many owners that can attest that they did not recieve what they thought they were buying. The advertised header, and were told a number of reason why it was not the advertised one after purchase.
This company should be avoided Buyer beware.......
They are now selling this for 899.00 2012-13 Ebay 200.00 (numerous vendors)
They sold this for 899.00 in 2011 Ebay 152.00(not available anymore)
There are many owners that can attest that they did not recieve what they thought they were buying. The advertised header, and were told a number of reason why it was not the advertised one after purchase.
This company should be avoided Buyer beware.......
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