Drivetrain Feeding the CAI
#1
Feeding the CAI
OK, so I am on the process of selection of a CAI to go with my 15% pulley...and I realized that not one of the CAI's in the market use the current ram air the stock box uses.
So by design some use the air coming from the grill by the windshield (DDM Craven), but others seem to be more of a HAI (ALTA). Why is it that none of the aftermarket CAI's are using the ram air?
Craven is the only one that show a hose going to it, and their box has a cut out, but I can't find that hose anywhere...what gives?
So by design some use the air coming from the grill by the windshield (DDM Craven), but others seem to be more of a HAI (ALTA). Why is it that none of the aftermarket CAI's are using the ram air?
Craven is the only one that show a hose going to it, and their box has a cut out, but I can't find that hose anywhere...what gives?
#2
I use the Dinan intake. It uses the factory bottom of the box, where the 'ram air' comes in, and they give you a new filter and top box. the part of the top box is cut out near the windshield and they include everything you need. it looks very slick... weather-stripping and everything. if you want pics, let me know.
not sure if you can still get them. i think they were on clearance when i bought mine 2 years ago. it sounds great too, so much more 'whine'.
not sure if you can still get them. i think they were on clearance when i bought mine 2 years ago. it sounds great too, so much more 'whine'.
#3
Check out M7. High in price but pretty cool.
I personaly have the NM Engineering CAI (alias - HAI). But my take on it
is it still has great air catching capacity over the stock with the little air
duct in the lower front grill so with the NM you do get hot air from the
engine but I still think it helps due to greater air flow capacity. I also put on
the NM heat shield and it really
does hold the temps down.
Soon to install my intercooler.
I personaly have the NM Engineering CAI (alias - HAI). But my take on it
is it still has great air catching capacity over the stock with the little air
duct in the lower front grill so with the NM you do get hot air from the
engine but I still think it helps due to greater air flow capacity. I also put on
the NM heat shield and it really
does hold the temps down.
Soon to install my intercooler.
Last edited by drsimmons; 03-02-2012 at 05:24 PM.
#4
AS for NME, they don't make anything for the Supercharged models, only turno (from the website)
#6
They all are about the same set up (basically).
Go with the best price or whichever one looks
the neatest to ya. .
I don't care for foam filters. I wonder if you can
replace them with paper/pleated?
I didn't really read anything on them either, are they
all oil treated?
Go with the best price or whichever one looks
the neatest to ya. .
I don't care for foam filters. I wonder if you can
replace them with paper/pleated?
I didn't really read anything on them either, are they
all oil treated?
#7
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#8
The Dinan kits are nice, but last I checked were pretty much impossible to find. Good luck scoring one! It's about the same as the JCW intake. (See the DIY option in my signature for something remarkably similar but about ~1/5 the price and ~5 times the DIY fun.)
To say the few CAIs use the stock "ram-air" intake is false, though: almost all that I've ever seen retain the stock intake tube. In fact, I think the K&N version is the truest version of a "ram-air" intake, but it's also probably not the coldest at the intake manifold. (I've had both, and I think my DIY version is better; I still have the K&N intake if you're interested! It's certainly the sweetest looking.)
To say the few CAIs use the stock "ram-air" intake is false, though: almost all that I've ever seen retain the stock intake tube. In fact, I think the K&N version is the truest version of a "ram-air" intake, but it's also probably not the coldest at the intake manifold. (I've had both, and I think my DIY version is better; I still have the K&N intake if you're interested! It's certainly the sweetest looking.)
#9
#10
312 thanks for the pics
Apple...have you measured the performance of your CAI. I did find it last night and seems intriguing to say the least.
Thanks. The thing that bugs me about Alta is that you have to pay extra for the cover BS is my book
Thanks for the replies
Thanks for the replies
#11
I have no idea how the stock box performs relative to ambient air temperatures here, either. As I bought the car last August, I've now had it in more winter than summer, and EVERYTHING is a cold-air intake at -20° C. I would like to wait for the hottest day this summer (likely 20°, if last summer is any indicator...) and swap all three, drive them hard, and take readings off the manifold... But I have a life! I'd rather be riding bicycles, or at the very least driving through the mountains with my bike on the roof.
#14
I modded my stock airbox using instructions I found here on NAM. I even posted pix on the how-to thread of how I did mine.
The mod provides 90% of the benefit of a $250-300 CAI, still uses the little "ram air" intake from the front of the car, adds a bit of extra top-end breathing via the extra cowl air, gives a nice dollop of extra supercharger whine goodness, and cost me about $10 for the weatherstripping I used.
Plus, I get to brag about DIY'ing it....
My next airbox mod will be updating the top of the airbox to make it able to use a cone-style filter, similar to the "Dave F Mod". All the parts I need should be available at Autozone or O'Reilly, too, which means that apart from the filter, I should be able to get it done for about my typical "beer and a mini-pizza" happy hour bar tab....
HTH!
C ya,
Dutch
The mod provides 90% of the benefit of a $250-300 CAI, still uses the little "ram air" intake from the front of the car, adds a bit of extra top-end breathing via the extra cowl air, gives a nice dollop of extra supercharger whine goodness, and cost me about $10 for the weatherstripping I used.
Plus, I get to brag about DIY'ing it....
My next airbox mod will be updating the top of the airbox to make it able to use a cone-style filter, similar to the "Dave F Mod". All the parts I need should be available at Autozone or O'Reilly, too, which means that apart from the filter, I should be able to get it done for about my typical "beer and a mini-pizza" happy hour bar tab....
HTH!
C ya,
Dutch
#16
My next airbox mod will be updating the top of the airbox to make it able to use a cone-style filter, similar to the "Dave F Mod". All the parts I need should be available at Autozone or O'Reilly, too, which means that apart from the filter, I should be able to get it done for about my typical "beer and a mini-pizza" happy hour bar tab....
HTH!
C ya,
Dutch
HTH!
C ya,
Dutch
- Andrew
#17
FWIW, Dave still has about 1/2-dozen left from his February batch.
Last edited by TimL; 03-05-2012 at 11:42 AM.
#20
Can you post a link to your thread? I have signatures disabled. I'm sure i've seen it before but I need to bookmark it for when i take another crack at finishing mine.
Thanks and good work!
- drew
#21
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ir-intake.html
Seems like there have been at least a few spare OEM airboxes and intake hoses in the classifieds lately. I've been thinking I'd score one just to experiment further...but I'm perfectly pleased with mine as it is! Been thinking I'd spruce it up with a red or blue Samco hose, too, but can't warrant the warrantless $100 for something I totally don't need.
Seems like there have been at least a few spare OEM airboxes and intake hoses in the classifieds lately. I've been thinking I'd score one just to experiment further...but I'm perfectly pleased with mine as it is! Been thinking I'd spruce it up with a red or blue Samco hose, too, but can't warrant the warrantless $100 for something I totally don't need.
#23
For those who are interested; http://gruppem.co.jp/matching/produc...?goods_id=1315
#25
Holly Cow, for that price I can get a full stage1 setup including CAI, exhaust, pulley, plugs, and cables, maybe even a coil...
I am really beginning to consider the DYI CAI listed above....I'm just not sure I want to muck up the stock in case I have to reverse for service (Dealers are a pain sometimes) for to sell it.
I am really beginning to consider the DYI CAI listed above....I'm just not sure I want to muck up the stock in case I have to reverse for service (Dealers are a pain sometimes) for to sell it.