Yes it does. What is exactly your question?

Actually we are in development stages of doing just that. Feel free to hit me up in a few weeks and we can work something out"A credit" for the current piece you already purchased. Thanks again for the business

 

That was the question.

 

Thanks for the link! People need to relax, its just grammar.

It's the internet, who give a f***. Stop nitpicking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM

 

even better than the first

 

this vid is great!!!!!!!

 

No that is a statement, not a question. Bigprfed we already know how you feel about the product. Now go away!!

 

Don't yell, it's not nice

 

Ok WTF where do people have time do this stuff this vid is so funny!!!
ok guys please, please, pretty please lets stay on topic and chill with the fighting!!

 

Hello. I am the owner of Billet Tech along with my husband Ken. Your points here are well taken and we appreciate the fact that you took the time to read about or products and we also appreciate that you have another opinion about what we should be doing with our product.

You are correct that stuipd doesn't stay in business very long, and I am very proud of the fact that we have worked together with each other here at our shop for well over 15 years. During that time we have seen our ups and our downs. Most importantly we found out it was smart to stay together.

Are we top of the class in spelling? Nope, are we english lit majors? Nope not even close. In fact I am a college drop out 5 credits short. I left college to help my dad when he needed it most and I never regret that decision.

Some of the mistakes you found on our website as well as mistakes you deem wrong about our can DO NOT reflect on how we approach our quality, our approach to customers and our commitment to bringing a top shelf product carefully packaged and inspected.

We freely admit we are not as familar as you all are with your Mini's on the in's and outs. We drive Mopars. Gonzalo came to us from our fitting and hose supplier. Mako Hose directed him to us. I promise you we work on other things here as well that are a result of a recommendation and not some employee with a car in the parking lot.

As has been the case from day one that we started making aftermarket products, we hooked Gonzalo up for his time and help. This is something we have done numerous times with other folks and is out there for the public to find.

Will some of you not want to purchase our product. Yep. Will some of you want to learn more? Yep. Will we interact with you to bring a product to the market place that some of you want. Yes we will. It is what we have been doing for many years.

All posters in here who are not happy with our sentence structure or can your feelings are known that our can is not for you. You may continue to pick away at everything you see wrong and it is your choice. To other members reading this thead or posting in it we are here to work with you to give you an alternate solution and bring a product to you that is a result of feedback from you. Already we are taking your suggestions and working to incorporate them.

In closing I would like to welcome any of you who are local to come for a visit. If you are traveling and are in our area we welcome you always.

Please do not hesitate to contact us toll free any time Monday thru Friday 6 A.M., to 4:30 P.M., at 866-747-1684. These are our summer hours. You may reach us by email as well (info@billettechnology.com). If you get our message box it is because we are either in the shop or both lines are tied up. We will call you back.

Thanks again.

Heidi

 

That is absolutely correct. However, that doesn't mean that is the optimal way of doing things. For example, with the BSH Boost Tap as a block off, you turn this back/forth PCV set up (which usually vents directly to the intake manifold, and is the main cause of carbon build up on the intake valves) and turn it into a ONE line PCV system. This is what MINI did on the refresh of the R55/R56/R57 2011 Cooper S with the N18 motor, and completely did away with that hose on the passenger side.



Also, I too haven't heard of a MINI with a check valve error yet, but I have heard of alot of VW's who have a similar PCV system that vents to the Intake Manifold on a Turbo like the R56. This might be too that the R56 has been only around for 4 years, how does this check valve hold up at 10 years, 15, 20? Just precautionary, thats all I was bringing up about it. I guess you could plan on replacing Valve Covers to avoid a failed check valve as well. Its a minor thing to go wrong with Major effects.

Speaking of an Intake Manifold that sees boost, how does this catch can combat oil from being blown back into the lines when the intake manifold see's boost conditions? Also, what is the pressure drop, if any because of adding another container that now needs to be filled with boost?

 

As of now with my data logging has not shown any boost drop but I m looking in to it more in depth I will let you know asap I m getting a new comp for data logging my comp that I used for it died on after I dropped it out of my car a few days ago I lost all of my data but so far so good honestly! if I see even the smallest drop in boost I will let you all know asap I m all for this can but I m not about to start lying to anyone if there is any boost loss or any other issues.

 

No, it's not.
This has been discussed at length in other threads. Please keep it over there, as this thread is not about changes to the PCV system for 2011.

Go find an almost-empty 2 liter bottle; one with maybe half a glass or less of liquid left in it.
Hold it sideways with the opening up to your mouth, making a good seal with your lips.
Now blow as hard as you can into the opening.

This is roughly analogous to what a passenger-side PCV line with a catch can sees when the intake manifold goes into boost conditions and the PCV valve in the valve cover closes.

Does the liquid blow about wildly as you pressurize the contents? No, it does not. But even if the PCV valve failed and there was flow through this line, it would be directed back to the crankcase (and then out the driver side vent) where the crankcase fumes came from.

 

+1

 

Wow thanks for the link. Now I won't have to wait for a dual can setup or waste money on the BSH.

Looks like I don't have to install a dual can setup on my 2011? I'm getting confused with all this cross posting.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...56-post16.html

EDIT* Never mind i read through the rest of the pages. I think I understand now. I sent Phil at BSH a message to see if they've completed their 2011 OCC design.

Looks like the product discussed in this thread would be good on the n14 engines and the n18 engines are up in the air.

 

Ahhh, but you are missing a KEY component in you analogy here fishbert, and that is that there is not a complete seal.. these and most catch cans have TWO ports.. one in and one out. It may not bubble out and all over the place, but that is the decision of the design and not the concept. Therefore I think I asked a valid question on the design and whether it has this effect or not. Try a bubbler next and see the effect of air passing through a liquid on its way out.

Again fishbert, yes a RARE (I say this and pray it happens to no-one) instance of a problem that can occur. This does not however take away the FACT that the BSH Boost Tap PREVENTS this problem from having ANY adverse affects on the motor, amongst the other features it provides. Agreed?

 

My guess is that whatever BSH comes up with (unless it's a whole new valve cover… fat chance) will only address the driver side vent hose. Which, is alright, but doesn't address the more significant and potentially engine-killing problem of carbon buildup in the intake ports.

But who knows… maybe the new valve cover on the N18 engine will work much better at filtering out all that junk before it hits the intake ports (the N14 valve covers were supposed to do this, too, they just didn't do a very good job of it). We probably won't know until someone puts a few miles on their N18 and pops off the intake manifold to take a peek.

I think you misunderstand the analogy… the 2L bottle represents the entire passenger-side PCV line from intake manifold to (closed) PCV valve in the valve cover. The catch can is in the middle of this path (not at the end of it), and PCV valves do make a fairly good seal when closed. The whole point being, when the PCV valve is closed (when under boost), any liquids collected in your can (if they were somehow resuspended in the "air" … which they wouldn't be) would have no place to go (just like your breath pressurizing the 2L bottle didn't have anywhere to go).

Oh, also, gasses flowing through that PCV line aren't going to be bubbling up through whatever has collected in your catch can … at least, I'd hope not, because that would mean one of your ports is beneath the level of the collected liquid, and that could quickly kill your engine.

 

Well lets hope so or at least BSH comes up with something brilliant soon. I'm about to hit 3k.

 

What other hose is there to address?! Please do not bring this up here until you have conclusively proved it. We only need to have this discussion in one thread.

There is only ONE hose on the N18 motor. It acts like the the N14 with a BSH Boost Tap as a block off.

Give a call to your local dealer and tell them to put pressure on BSH. It will happen.

 

There is a bit more going on with the N18 then just a block off cap no auto company would spend the money to redesign any part of a motor it cost a bit more money to do a redesign then just caping off the PCV line if that is all they did! I mean think about it logically would you spend the amount of money it takes to change a design of a motor we are talking a HUGE bit of pocket change here, if all you needed was caps the cost less then $0.05 to make. Sorry but theres no way that saying the N18 is like the N14 with caps makes no sense.

 

I could see it being plausible if it saves BMW money in the long run and improves their product.

We are cross posting again, as this thread is merging between this other one. The vendor and OP might want to make another thread dedicated to their product.

 

If your referring to the valve cover, it is different due to the double vanos system now.


The peugot caps are a factory part for cars going to less restricted emissions countries.

Just block it off


Your taking a two way system and making it one way


It works off of vacuum. by plugging the passenger side your just re routing the gases thats it. There is still vacuum pulling the gases out just from a different port

 

I think the concern with just blocking it off though for some people is the effects on the longevity of the engine ... right? As killerfox explained for his views on the subject. I have to agree, but also have no idea what the effects are on the n18. I dunnnoooooo

 

What longevity issue(s) is(are) being implied? Your taking a pcv system that runs off vacuum with 2 ports... to 1. Its still flowing the same way which is to vacuum


I dont see what scares people?


The valve cover does not go under boost, if it did you would leak through the driver side pcv. Its a very simple system.

 

Sorry to keep this going off topic like this but that makes no sense you are taking a line that is in vacuum all the time with MOST (not all) of the bad fumes capping it off and now forcing it to go another way that it was never intend intended to go I get it that it works for some people, MINIUSA's car and all those of you that don't for see a problem but there is nothing that anyone can say that is going to change my mind. This thread is about a new option out there thats all now please let it stay that what this is enough already over is back and forth over who is right and wrong. Please let it go! Now if anyone has questions about the can directly call the company there number is posted or post it here and they or I will get back to you ASAP thanks to all that are following this for more info over the OCC set up I will let you all know any updates the sec I have them over it all here and then most likely start a new thread once I have it in the car. let the rest go!!!

 

Well i think the discussion does apply somewhat. Seeing as we are trying to figure out the difference between the N18 and N14 engines. This could affect the design process for this company's product if they want to appeal to 2011+ MINI owners.