Drivetrain The Official ALTA AccessPORT Thread
6th Gear
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From: L.A ca
I ran into one of the early testers for the automatic tune version today at the shop and he is VERY happy so far . He has only had it for a week but each successive tune has been an improvment . He is not a forum guy so I told him i would put something up on his behalf.
Randy
M7 Tuning
Randy
M7 Tuning
3rd Gear
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Finally pulled the trigger and ordered one of these for my 09 JCW, this wait during the shipping process is going to be unbearable for me!
Btw, does anybody know how much this tune will reduce the 0-60mph or 1/4 mile for a stage 1 jcw?
Btw, does anybody know how much this tune will reduce the 0-60mph or 1/4 mile for a stage 1 jcw?
Last edited by dj.papazian; Sep 5, 2010 at 09:08 AM.
From another thread....
I know you don't like us, at all but why the comment? Its not like this came out last week and we started making maps, we have been building these for a long time. Then secondly we have been tuning (ECU related) cars in general for a very very long time, and i would say longer than anyone else here.
You make it sound like ALTA is trying to hurt RMW and put down his tuning. In fact if anything i have stood up for RMW's efforts and his ability to tune the ECU given the tools available. He is making power, he is making customers happy, which i think he has done a good job.
We have had the tools to tune these for a long time and while its still not as long as Jan has been tuning, we were able to learn much more in a shorter period of time. Meaning, anyone given the proper tools and knowledge, can excel in learning how to tune a Mini. Jan hasn't had good tools and its taken much more time on his end to get the the point he is. If we both had bicycles to get up a 10 mile hill, and i was able to start at the 5mile mark, would you fault us for winning the race? I look at it that we had a head start over RMW.
So while our R56 ECU flashing experience is say half that of RMW, we were not having to guess at how things worked making our time to market much faster. Remember, we have 2-3 shop cars at any one time just sitting here. We can test and tune setups very efficiently and at a moments notice. Between having the tools and the cars, i feel like we are at a tuning level that is higher than RMW.
With that said RMW will be the first tuner to get the ALTA AccessPORT Tuning software. With what RMW does know, and his customer base under his belt, i know that he will be successful with it. I am very excited for RMW to tune using the ALTA AccessPORT as i know that he can make more power than he is now, and take care of his customers much faster than he ever could.
As time passes more and more custom tuners are going to be able to tune using the ALTA AccessPORT which means and even broader base of customers can be handled and more people will be willing to build crazier cars. This is still just the beginning of exciting things to come in the Mini tuning world!
I know you don't like us, at all but why the comment? Its not like this came out last week and we started making maps, we have been building these for a long time. Then secondly we have been tuning (ECU related) cars in general for a very very long time, and i would say longer than anyone else here.
You make it sound like ALTA is trying to hurt RMW and put down his tuning. In fact if anything i have stood up for RMW's efforts and his ability to tune the ECU given the tools available. He is making power, he is making customers happy, which i think he has done a good job.
We have had the tools to tune these for a long time and while its still not as long as Jan has been tuning, we were able to learn much more in a shorter period of time. Meaning, anyone given the proper tools and knowledge, can excel in learning how to tune a Mini. Jan hasn't had good tools and its taken much more time on his end to get the the point he is. If we both had bicycles to get up a 10 mile hill, and i was able to start at the 5mile mark, would you fault us for winning the race? I look at it that we had a head start over RMW.
So while our R56 ECU flashing experience is say half that of RMW, we were not having to guess at how things worked making our time to market much faster. Remember, we have 2-3 shop cars at any one time just sitting here. We can test and tune setups very efficiently and at a moments notice. Between having the tools and the cars, i feel like we are at a tuning level that is higher than RMW.
With that said RMW will be the first tuner to get the ALTA AccessPORT Tuning software. With what RMW does know, and his customer base under his belt, i know that he will be successful with it. I am very excited for RMW to tune using the ALTA AccessPORT as i know that he can make more power than he is now, and take care of his customers much faster than he ever could.
As time passes more and more custom tuners are going to be able to tune using the ALTA AccessPORT which means and even broader base of customers can be handled and more people will be willing to build crazier cars. This is still just the beginning of exciting things to come in the Mini tuning world!
6th Gear
Joined: Jul 2008
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From: Ohio
Am I the only one who got his AP, but has left it sitting on the kitchen counter ever since?
In fact, I kinda forgot it was coming until it arrived.
Ok, I guess I need to wait for the 91 octane maps too… but that's ok because I ain't touching my AP until I get my boroscope and spend some time investigating carbon build-up and what a seafoam treatment actually does to improve the situation.
In fact, I kinda forgot it was coming until it arrived.
Ok, I guess I need to wait for the 91 octane maps too… but that's ok because I ain't touching my AP until I get my boroscope and spend some time investigating carbon build-up and what a seafoam treatment actually does to improve the situation.
Stage 1 JCW Map on Octane 91 please
2nd Gear
Joined: Mar 2010
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From: Thousand Oaks, CA
The boost in power with the AccessPORT tune is a bit addicting. I'm running the stage1 tune tweaked for a larger FMIC and catback. The performance is great but now I'm wondering what the stage3 tune must be like(it requires a turboback). Would it be worth the hassle of swapping back to the stock downpipe for a day every two years to pass smog checks in CA? I'd be interested to hear from anyone who's driven both stage1 and stage3 tunes.
Guys and Gals: Trust that we are working each day on those maps! We know there is a LARGE market that only has 91 oct. available! As always more info coming soon!
Thanks as always for the business and support!
Thanks as always for the business and support!
3rd Gear
Joined: Sep 2008
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From: Honolulu HI
Chris :
What Power Gains Would I Be Looking At As I Stand WIth My Mods ? And WOuld You Recommend Purchasing It Now OR Wait Until I Do The Turbo Upgrade To Get The Most Power Out Of THe AP And The Set Up?
What Power Gains Would I Be Looking At As I Stand WIth My Mods ? And WOuld You Recommend Purchasing It Now OR Wait Until I Do The Turbo Upgrade To Get The Most Power Out Of THe AP And The Set Up?
if they can modify maps and upgrade you as you go... why not get it now? if you're going to and it's upgradable, i don't see any real reason to wait personally...
Former Vendor
Joined: Aug 2008
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From: Hillsboro, OR
Mario,
Adding the ALTA AccessPORT to your car now will add at least another 30-50 WHP and 60-65 FT LBS to the wheels. For sure something that you will notice!
I would get it now, since it'll add a ton of power with just the parts you have now! It's going to be a while before we are going to get some maps made for bigger turbos. Thanks!
Manufacturer
Joined: Dec 2002
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From: Oregon
Guys, Lots of new things going on, and lots of progress on 91 maps. I wish there was more i could say about the auto stuff, but its being worked on. AT this point we are offering the Auto maps to customers who have a way to clear their CEL's that come up after a flash. If you are interested give us a call.
Wait, how can you wait! There is a lot of power to be gained and alot of fun to be gained by the ALTA AccessPORT with the stock turbo. But when our turbo kit mapping is done and dialed,it for sure will be your next upgrade!
Man i have seen some scary things surrounding this problem and Mini dealers are starting to recommend that you seafoam or do physical removal of the carbon at certain intervals.
But for now, install that AP and have some fun! Just make sure you uninstall it before you go to the dealer!
Am I the only one who got his AP, but has left it sitting on the kitchen counter ever since?
In fact, I kinda forgot it was coming until it arrived.
Ok, I guess I need to wait for the 91 octane maps too… but that's ok because I ain't touching my AP until I get my boroscope and spend some time investigating carbon build-up and what a seafoam treatment actually does to improve the situation.
In fact, I kinda forgot it was coming until it arrived.
Ok, I guess I need to wait for the 91 octane maps too… but that's ok because I ain't touching my AP until I get my boroscope and spend some time investigating carbon build-up and what a seafoam treatment actually does to improve the situation.
But for now, install that AP and have some fun! Just make sure you uninstall it before you go to the dealer!
Man i have seen some scary things surrounding this problem and Mini dealers are starting to recommend that you seafoam or do physical removal of the carbon at certain intervals.
But for now, install that AP and have some fun! Just make sure you uninstall it before you go to the dealer!
But for now, install that AP and have some fun! Just make sure you uninstall it before you go to the dealer!
My car is sitting at the dealer as we speak for the very issue. *Crossing fingers they'll pull the head for me and clean it*
The Seafoam IS sprayed into the intake valves and thus removes the carbon build up.
hope that helps folks!
4th Gear
Joined: Oct 2008
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From: mount laurel, NJ
I see posts about turbo upgrades and have to wonder why? To the best of my knowledge no tuner has maxed out the limits of the stock components yet. I have not heard of anyone needing bigger injectors or the fuel pump not being able to handle the amount of fuel needed for the extra boost from a tune. Has any one got some hard numbers on Max boost, and fuel that the stock components can handle safely or is it just that the guys doing the tuning haven't figured out how to get past some of the limiters yet?
6th Gear
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From: Ohio
Probably a good idea not to start another carbon buildup discussion in here, though. Check out this thread and this thread for more info. Also, here are some informative videos on what the PCV System does, for those who are unclear.
Coordinator :: Emerald MINI Car Club
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: Eugene, OR
I have suggestion for a software enhancement for the AccessPORT. Can it be made to allow you to change/rearrange the order of the live data elements in the list? That way you could have the most common things you'd monitor at the top of the list so you don't have to scroll as much to find them?
I see posts about turbo upgrades and have to wonder why? To the best of my knowledge no tuner has maxed out the limits of the stock components yet. I have not heard of anyone needing bigger injectors or the fuel pump not being able to handle the amount of fuel needed for the extra boost from a tune. Has any one got some hard numbers on Max boost, and fuel that the stock components can handle safely or is it just that the guys doing the tuning haven't figured out how to get past some of the limiters yet?
With a tuning solution like the AP...you're going to be able to see a lot easier what slapping a bigger turbo on this car will do. (Hopefully)
6th Gear
Joined: Jul 2008
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From: Ohio
I see posts about turbo upgrades and have to wonder why? To the best of my knowledge no tuner has maxed out the limits of the stock components yet. I have not heard of anyone needing bigger injectors or the fuel pump not being able to handle the amount of fuel needed for the extra boost from a tune. Has any one got some hard numbers on Max boost, and fuel that the stock components can handle safely or is it just that the guys doing the tuning haven't figured out how to get past some of the limiters yet?
(his numbers are off, and he corrected that later, but I assume the blown this-n-that is real)
I think I'm interested in the auto maps especially if it helps you guys in the development process. Is their anyway I could get more info on what CEL codes it blows, and if possible why?
Guys, Lots of new things going on, and lots of progress on 91 maps. I wish there was more i could say about the auto stuff, but its being worked on. AT this point we are offering the Auto maps to customers who have a way to clear their CEL's that come up after a flash. If you are interested give us a call.
Guys, Lots of new things going on, and lots of progress on 91 maps. I wish there was more i could say about the auto stuff, but its being worked on. AT this point we are offering the Auto maps to customers who have a way to clear their CEL's that come up after a flash. If you are interested give us a call.
Wait, how can you wait! There is a lot of power to be gained and alot of fun to be gained by the ALTA AccessPORT with the stock turbo. But when our turbo kit mapping is done and dialed,it for sure will be your next upgrade!
Man i have seen some scary things surrounding this problem and Mini dealers are starting to recommend that you seafoam or do physical removal of the carbon at certain intervals.
But for now, install that AP and have some fun! Just make sure you uninstall it before you go to the dealer!
Wait, how can you wait! There is a lot of power to be gained and alot of fun to be gained by the ALTA AccessPORT with the stock turbo. But when our turbo kit mapping is done and dialed,it for sure will be your next upgrade!
Man i have seen some scary things surrounding this problem and Mini dealers are starting to recommend that you seafoam or do physical removal of the carbon at certain intervals.
But for now, install that AP and have some fun! Just make sure you uninstall it before you go to the dealer!
BUT besides that, I have a few questions about the AP. I have read on here that the AP is capable of removing the CEL from a catless downpipe, but right out of the box does it? I also recall that you said that it has the capability of doing some cool things with the sport button (different tunes, more boost, etc.) but again right out of the box does it???