Drivetrain The Official ALTA AccessPORT Thread
Take a look at the Craven Speed gauge pods. They are pretty nice and don't crap up the look of the car. They also have a nice adapter for the temp probe.
@Alta
Like some people on this thread. I also have 07 MCS with JCW kit. I would also like to see some Dyno numbers for people with JCW kit. I've been thinking about a RMW tune for awhile and AccessPORT maybe a alternative solution.
The JCW Kit is essentially a really expensive tune with exhaust system with badges. :'(
I'm also anxiously waiting for Mark's result. =D
Like some people on this thread. I also have 07 MCS with JCW kit. I would also like to see some Dyno numbers for people with JCW kit. I've been thinking about a RMW tune for awhile and AccessPORT maybe a alternative solution.

The JCW Kit is essentially a really expensive tune with exhaust system with badges. :'(
I'm also anxiously waiting for Mark's result. =D
@Alta
Like some people on this thread. I also have 07 MCS with JCW kit. I would also like to see some Dyno numbers for people with JCW kit. I've been thinking about a RMW tune for awhile and AccessPORT maybe a alternative solution.
The JCW Kit is essentially a really expensive tune with exhaust system with badges. :'(
I'm also anxiously waiting for Mark's result. =D
Like some people on this thread. I also have 07 MCS with JCW kit. I would also like to see some Dyno numbers for people with JCW kit. I've been thinking about a RMW tune for awhile and AccessPORT maybe a alternative solution.

The JCW Kit is essentially a really expensive tune with exhaust system with badges. :'(
I'm also anxiously waiting for Mark's result. =D
I think it would be the same as an s since the jcw flash would be reflashed to the new one... cool intake and exhaust would stay though
Check your temp via a scan gauge or actual temp gauge next time you are on the track. You will notice that by the time you get 1/4 of the way around your out lap that the temp has dropped down to around 185 or so. Even in Texas, where I live, the ECU will be able to maintain within 10-20 degrees of the target temp. After your session is finished and you decrease the load on the engine, you will see coolant temps into the 220-230's by the time you are back in your paddock spot.
It makes sense nonethelessSo, when we are all getting some of that goodness, we should have the a/c on? Am i getting this?
Would kinda be a catch 22 though, because the a/c robs some of the horsepower from the motor. It may be my altitude but the a/c seems to make a pretty big difference....
Larry
It's actually more like, if your car is getting hot, turn on the A/C to help cool it off. Usually it would get hot when you're going slow or at idle, and turning on the A/C will switch on all the extra fans to get more air through the radiator.
Argh, I have never spent so much money to get a car tunned, first $800.00 on your Unichip, then $850. for a RMW tune, and now your new product has me drooling to get back to an all Alta settup. I really want to see what the AP can do with your Water/Meth system I have hooked up??...and I love all those extra features you guys just posted... I guess I am going to need to start saving again... 
This is something we want to add for future updates. While we can do it now, its one of those things that is not 100% perfect. But its close!
Since Jeff is encouraging questions I have one regarding operating water temps. My 09 Clubbie S water temps run to about 230F (IMHO does not do much for the projected longevity of the motor) Would any of your tunes do anything to help reduce such high operating temps? I know there is a thermostat involved but I'm not sure how much the ECU actually has to do with the water temps.
My current thoughts are to get the ALTA FMIC first and then the AP - can't afford both at the same time.
Thanks
Dennis
My current thoughts are to get the ALTA FMIC first and then the AP - can't afford both at the same time.
Thanks
Dennis
This is my conundrum. A tune needs to be done with a dyno. That is why its called a "tune." I have a JCW with many mods. See my signature. So Alta providing a canned tune does not interest me.
Those with 09+ factory JCWs are not getting the amazing results with a RMW tune or this new Alta tune because our cars are already tuned to some degree and have engine improvements over those with a Cooper S.
So it not really worth it for me to drop another $800 to get a few more pounds of boot/horse power or torque.
I have put enough time and money into my car. I am going to drive it and enjoy it.
All you cooper guys out there that are stock. I would definitely spend the money on this Alta tune/tool. You are getting a huge bang for your buck.
-Steve
Those with 09+ factory JCWs are not getting the amazing results with a RMW tune or this new Alta tune because our cars are already tuned to some degree and have engine improvements over those with a Cooper S.
So it not really worth it for me to drop another $800 to get a few more pounds of boot/horse power or torque.
I have put enough time and money into my car. I am going to drive it and enjoy it.
All you cooper guys out there that are stock. I would definitely spend the money on this Alta tune/tool. You are getting a huge bang for your buck.
-Steve
What we are targeting is load. Load consists of many things but RPM, Boost, and airflow is what it really is looking at. So say we are targeting and limiting load to say 100 and this makes 200HP. You can add a bunch of parts that make power, but the ECU will still only run 100 load and 200HP. But what you see is boost going down but the power staying the same. We have to tell the ECU its ok to make 110 load now.
Now all this different terminology can be confusing. While we call them tunes, really they are tuned calibrations for your ECU. The tuned calibration is done with specific parts in mind. One could say custom tuned calibrations are for when you put your car on a dyno and someone makes it special for your car. We all should starting saying Calibrations for the ECU not tunes as tuning is an action. So we are offing the ALTA AccessPORT with tuned calibrations for your Mini that are for specific parts. And of course the tuned calibrations make more power than stock!
I'm an old school turn up the boost controller for more power kinda guy (e.g. in my 300ZX). Low boost setting and high boost setting. Would love to be able to do this in the MINI? Maybe via the sport button?
So I'm getting peak boost of 14.5 lbs right now on my '08 MCSa with the JCW stage 1 tuning kit and a few other mods. When the automatic tunes are done, what kinda boost am I looking at? It's a bang for the buck question I guess. If I can get 8-10 more lbs then it's worth it to me.
So I'm getting peak boost of 14.5 lbs right now on my '08 MCSa with the JCW stage 1 tuning kit and a few other mods. When the automatic tunes are done, what kinda boost am I looking at? It's a bang for the buck question I guess. If I can get 8-10 more lbs then it's worth it to me.
From most customers that have tested the TPS maps, i can already tell that we are going to just change them all to our throttle mapping we have created. Its smoother and less jumpy.
@Alta
Like some people on this thread. I also have 07 MCS with JCW kit. I would also like to see some Dyno numbers for people with JCW kit. I've been thinking about a RMW tune for awhile and AccessPORT maybe a alternative solution.
The JCW Kit is essentially a really expensive tune with exhaust system with badges. :'(
I'm also anxiously waiting for Mark's result. =D
Like some people on this thread. I also have 07 MCS with JCW kit. I would also like to see some Dyno numbers for people with JCW kit. I've been thinking about a RMW tune for awhile and AccessPORT maybe a alternative solution.

The JCW Kit is essentially a really expensive tune with exhaust system with badges. :'(
I'm also anxiously waiting for Mark's result. =D
In the end its still a Cooper S ECU, but its the ECU identification that is what is different. Or at least it has been on a few cars.
Ok, back from the dyno shop. Didn't do any comparisons before and after as the before was a dimsport tune that wasn't making anywhere near as much power. I didn't have the original stock tune to test out. That is still sitting in my dimsport tuners genius machine.
anyway, on to the graphs!

My mods consist of the Alta FMIC, boost gauge, and the Alta AP tune.
edit: here is the boost curve.

The AF went from 13's at low rpm to 11s at higher rpm/boost.
anyway, on to the graphs!

My mods consist of the Alta FMIC, boost gauge, and the Alta AP tune.
edit: here is the boost curve.

The AF went from 13's at low rpm to 11s at higher rpm/boost.
Last edited by MotorMouth; Aug 25, 2010 at 04:52 PM.
Jeff, I know my AP is in the mail and you have already provided me with several calibrations/maps. When you mention the "throttle mapping we have created", exactly which mapping are you referring to? The 100% linear, the stock till 30%, then liear, or something else? Thanks.
Ok, back from the dyno shop. Didn't do any comparisons before and after as the before was a dimsport tune that wasn't making anywhere near as much power. I didn't have the original stock tune to test out. That is still sitting in my dimsport tuners genius machine.
My mods consist of the Alta FMIC, boost gauge, and the Alta AP tune.
My mods consist of the Alta FMIC, boost gauge, and the Alta AP tune.

Jeff, I know my AP is in the mail and you have already provided me with several calibrations/maps. When you mention the "throttle mapping we have created", exactly which mapping are you referring to? The 100% linear, the stock till 30%, then liear, or something else? Thanks.
Finally we are starting to get you to believe!! I love it! Maybe i should just send you one.......to "test out"
Q: Can I back-up my stock ECU mappings to a computer, or do they have to live on the AP while a tune is loaded?
What I keep seeing repeatedly in this thread (and what I want, myself) is MCS pop & burble.
I hope that's a priority if it's not there already (conflicting posts in here about it).
I hope that's a priority if it's not there already (conflicting posts in here about it).
Jeff, I know my AP is in the mail and you have already provided me with several calibrations/maps. When you mention the "throttle mapping we have created", exactly which mapping are you referring to? The 100% linear, the stock till 30%, then liear, or something else? Thanks.
. Let me know when to expect them, thanks!
weather was about 85-90 degrees
Don't know the humidity but it's cloudy.
Jeff, If there were a AP for R53s
, I was wondering if you had done enough research into the R53 ECU to know if all of the R56 features would be available. Specifically Launch Control, It just seems like a fun feature.
I look forward to getting one When you release them
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, I was wondering if you had done enough research into the R53 ECU to know if all of the R56 features would be available. Specifically Launch Control, It just seems like a fun feature.I look forward to getting one When you release them
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The calibration we send that has tps on end is the one that has a linear-ish throttle setting on the non sport button. Then the sport button has a 100% linear map, which feels really good in my opinion. Let me know what you think!
Finally we are starting to get you to believe!! I love it! Maybe i should just send you one.......to "test out"
Finally we are starting to get you to believe!! I love it! Maybe i should just send you one.......to "test out"
Thinking outside the box
I will probably get flamed, or ousted for thinking along these lines...but here goes...
I know we are all drooling over the wonderful performance numbers folks are getting (I am very excited about what I am seeing here), but it occurs to me that while you are in there tweaking the ECU would it not also be possible to tune (or calibrate as Jeff says) to enhance fuel economy?
Since the AP can hold multiple tunes and only take a minute to update, wouldn't it be nice to be able to load a more fuel efficient tune for your daily drive or before going on a long trip? Might it be possible to have this as the default tune and have the Sport Button switch over to the more aggressive power tune?
As I said, just thinking outside the box...I don't even know if such a thing is possible or would net enough gains to be worth while. On the other hand, if it is possible/worth while, it might open the AP market up to more folks and might even appeal to MC owners as well.
I know I could sell the Mrs. on this in a heartbeat!
I know we are all drooling over the wonderful performance numbers folks are getting (I am very excited about what I am seeing here), but it occurs to me that while you are in there tweaking the ECU would it not also be possible to tune (or calibrate as Jeff says) to enhance fuel economy?
Since the AP can hold multiple tunes and only take a minute to update, wouldn't it be nice to be able to load a more fuel efficient tune for your daily drive or before going on a long trip? Might it be possible to have this as the default tune and have the Sport Button switch over to the more aggressive power tune?As I said, just thinking outside the box...I don't even know if such a thing is possible or would net enough gains to be worth while. On the other hand, if it is possible/worth while, it might open the AP market up to more folks and might even appeal to MC owners as well.
I know I could sell the Mrs. on this in a heartbeat!
I will probably get flamed, or ousted for thinking along these lines...but here goes...
I know we are all drooling over the wonderful performance numbers folks are getting (I am very excited about what I am seeing here), but it occurs to me that while you are in there tweaking the ECU would it not also be possible to tune (or calibrate as Jeff says) to enhance fuel economy?
Since the AP can hold multiple tunes and only take a minute to update, wouldn't it be nice to be able to load a more fuel efficient tune for your daily drive or before going on a long trip? Might it be possible to have this as the default tune and have the Sport Button switch over to the more aggressive power tune?
As I said, just thinking outside the box...I don't even know if such a thing is possible or would net enough gains to be worth while. On the other hand, if it is possible/worth while, it might open the AP market up to more folks and might even appeal to MC owners as well.
I know I could sell the Mrs. on this in a heartbeat!
I know we are all drooling over the wonderful performance numbers folks are getting (I am very excited about what I am seeing here), but it occurs to me that while you are in there tweaking the ECU would it not also be possible to tune (or calibrate as Jeff says) to enhance fuel economy?
Since the AP can hold multiple tunes and only take a minute to update, wouldn't it be nice to be able to load a more fuel efficient tune for your daily drive or before going on a long trip? Might it be possible to have this as the default tune and have the Sport Button switch over to the more aggressive power tune?As I said, just thinking outside the box...I don't even know if such a thing is possible or would net enough gains to be worth while. On the other hand, if it is possible/worth while, it might open the AP market up to more folks and might even appeal to MC owners as well.
I know I could sell the Mrs. on this in a heartbeat!
I know the threads are getting long now and there are a lot of posts to skim through if you are new to this topic.


