Hey Rick, Aquaman is trying to make the Mini more Areo. A part of his plan to relieve the vacuum at the rear of the car. His difuser argument has some well founded merit.
Like the EVO http://www.sigmaautomotive.com/perfo...kz/vortekz.php but not quite, his idea for these little buggers is a little deeper.

Going to go start the 125 with the E85 in just a few......

 

Ok Rick, the 125 runs great on E85, the jetting isin't quite the same as methanol but close. Just need to throw some gears at it for the Airport Saturday. We have some deltas for C12 so we'll see what we get.

 

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs26/f/20...xelStudios.png
This is what Aqua wants you to see

 

Yep thats the same pic I was looking at.
It is just a wide body kit with scoops that lead into the wheelwells, and cannards everywhere. Presonaly I dont see a point in a wide body, on a MINI but it is all personal taste. If you want to try to have one made I say go for it the wider stance and tires will improve your handling but nothing much more than that.

I'm thinking of starting a suspension thread, and letting people share some ideas there. I think that this one has gone a little too far off track of its intended purpose with all the areo talk, but I have had a great time with it. You guys can follow along if you want, and I will be checking back here when I get another hair brained idea for making power.
Oh and Steve let us know your oppinions on E85 in your cart, that could save this thread and return it to its original intention.

 

Ok Rick : I'm outta here but one thing before I leave; IF I had known you just wanted to make power for no reason at all than I'd have never been here to begin with. Our sawmills are re-opening due to the great mis -fortune of Chiles MASSIVE earth quake and THEY need some power ! Actually re-hiring as I type------WE NEED IT !! Speed IS produced by a combination of factors beginning with power and evolves from there. Than again there ARE still chimps~~~~~~~~~~later

 

Come on over to the suspension side Fish, you will see what I need a little more power for. If not I will be on NAM for a long while to come

 

Hey Rick, We'll follow you over there..... E85 info soon. If it is close to C12, it makes it much cheaper to use. The powers that be may reconsider near future plans to discontinue 2 cycle engines - polution.

 

This threads almost as fun as mine when I got all the big tuners throwing down the gauntlet........

 

SO~~~IT WAS YOU !!

 

So Steve whats your verdict on the E-GAS?

 

Hey Rick, hope you ARE having an enjoyable Easter.

We did not use the 125 shifter, instead we used our Yahama KT100 350# pipe class. We compared 93 pump, C12 & E85.
Our layout = 1600' very smooth, 9.5 out of 10, runway & + or - , no one actually knows what the long taxie way is, however there is a 600' marker from the gas shack - taxiway
1/2 gallon of each was mixed - 14:1 - Yamalube
The criteria - fuel mileage & best top speed measured with radar. What's important to note is the long sweeper that leads onto the runway - good entrance = best top speed. Also some of the taxiway is very bumpy so a track layout, given the surface was out of the question unless tearing the kart up was part of the test..... Not.
300' of taxiway- "sweeper" 600' runway w/a running start = top speed
Tne tank was filled with 32 oz for each run
all run time was documented, idle, warm up, etc.
12:30 81f clear n nw @ <3
93 pump = 33 minutes+ top speed 88.7
C12 = 31 minutes- top speed 97
E85 = 14 minutes+ top speed 96.8
15:40 77f w/ clouds nw @ >4
E85 = 12 minutes+ top speed 102
C12 = 30 minutes+ top speed 100
93 pump = 33 minutes+ top speed 91

More time w/E85 would yield better results.
The most important part of the test was the emission of the 2 cycle. Too many numbers - the short answer = E85 much cleaner. We're looking to see if it compares to EPA motorcycle.

A big plus, E85 is $2.34 a gallon. Even though we used more that 2 x 1, it was the least expensive & IMHO best of the 3 fuels for this app. Did, I mention, CLEAN.

Bottom line - this was a very crude test w/ NOT the best methods. Our target EGT was low 1200s with a head temp @ 400f - We use a C12 mix for this app & that's what we know. Our control spec was all over the place, BUT - Consensus = 2 - MA State Police, big time car guys, that supplied the radar, 4 pilot friends, my son the the driver w/10+ years & 2 championships, the onlookers = E85:
"Car Guy Smell" - Best... a Marshall 11
Bang for the buck - Best
Fuel economy - Not so good

Have a great day & STAY SAFE

 

See some (SEMI) solid proof that CORN does make good, solid, cheap"er" power Now who wants to see how much power we can make with E-gas and a bunch of bolt-on's that "dont work", even if the milage SUCKS and it smells like your still is cookin over.

Thanks for the tests Steve, hope your holiday was good for ya.

 

OK SAND-MAN~~~~~10% gain in power for 40% loss in mpg ? Math was/ is NOT my "strong" point but -----------??? Though granted he couldn't tune fer the time BUT--------smellin like TACOS outta at least have sun / fun & margurietas involved~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I realize ALL that IS not allowed at your locale ...but I'm NOT givin it up here !!! 7.2 or not OBEY

 

Hey Fish, I said way back when this started that I was gona need some big injectors and that my milage was gona SUCK, but I am willing to pay that price. I have seen amazing results on other cars once people learned to tune this stuff for performance. IMHO if Steve continues to refine his tune on using this gas in his kart, in a Time Attack (Time Trial) type event, like what I am building my car for he would be way up the ranks. Regardless of milage(and smell) this is the new race fuel of the future, it has already cought on in Japan, the kids in the US are going nutts over it, and Europe is falling behind. Mynes has tried it, I havent heard of a result but with enough exparementation it will out perform the $7.00 per gallon, track only, supported by oil tycoon billionares everywhere, petroleum based, fossil fuel that people have been burning since the first internal combustion engine.
Who knows maby the FFA will become the next EXXON, and instead of the money you spend on your race fuel going into some Saudi Arabian prince's pocket, OL' Jethro could buy himself a new trailer home in tornado alley and continue to evolve motorsports one COBB at a time.

The power of the COBB(the CORN COBB that is) will prevail, and Kansas will GROW the future of motorsports. HE HE HE

 

Sorry Fish that looks like it is all directed tward you, it isn't.
It is to all the non belivers out there.

If you cant pop it race it.

 

Should have used cost
C12 - $7.60
E85 - $2.44 today
As a race fuel the E85 is a no brainer
Actually we were more than -40% at a time BUT a tune for E85 WILL be a huge improvment. The "flex fuel" vehicles must do better....... maybe 20-25%???

There are too many mechanicals to deal with, high, low needles AND an integrated diaphragm fuel pump in the carb that can skew this test & IMHO, in this case, probable.
Bottom line: It has good potential - better than any pump gas available here.
The test is what it is......

 

SAND -MAN~~ I SAID~~ math~~ was not my strong point ; I just wanna have fun without smellin like a roadside MAIZ joint! If I must do it in public~~so be it !! I CONCEDE (shoulda "p-m'd" ya) but i've seen those made public too !! You ARE RIGHT, BUT as of NOW-the tuning, equipment changes and "sauce" req'd to affect this change IS to big for me. Don't get me wrong~~~I LOVE tacos, I just don't want to re-invent them along with the wheel at this time. THAT IS what you young doods are for and GOD bless ya for it!! When ya get it finished lemme know -I'd LOVE to be first in line; but right now--I just wanna make 300 whp with what I've GOT~~ not start all over. I'm gettin there and IF runnin this stuff w/o making "massive" changes to what I've spent my kids inheritance on works---Hey~~~I'M THERE !! Just show me the way; in the mean-time its like the Tom Waits tune ~~"Whats he building in there"~~~~~~~~~~~~LUV IT OBEY

 

Hey Fish, E85 doesn't smell anything like a "Grease Car", fry-o-lator recycled, PC, whatever.
The problem for most, if not all, to change to E85 is BIG, these cars are NOT flex fuel. Once you change...... well you're done - not something that can be done or changed in 10 minutes...... It's a big commetment - Rick - all the best with this project - search the web there are others running E85 in boosted cars - keep us up to date
I'm not going to start over either. I'd rather build from scratch.... lesson learned - never remodel a house you are living in...... "Whats he building in there" nuf said

 

Steve....Check yo "mail"~~~~~~~~g'nite Gracie~~~where-ever you are !!

 

So I have been researching different Tuning options than the UniChip, that is why I seem to have fallen off the radar for a little while.

I know, sombody is going to chime in about "WOW HE FINALY GOT SOME SENCE" and maby I have. I have found a DIY flash tuning tool, yes make my own tunes and load them to the ECU not a high tech piggy back. I am still waiting to hear back from the distributer on more product details but it might be worth a try at less than $400.00. What is the worst that could happen(besides my motor falling into little pices all over my garage floor) I will be with one of Colorados top EVO (E85) tuners, I trust that my internaly stock engine will stay intact in this guys hands.

The Tuning tool is the Liberator Sniper reflash tool(Google it there are a few supplyers).
Some of the advantages:
Its not a piggyback
It actually reflashes the stock ECU with new tunes
There are no parts to stuff under the dash with velcro
Supposidly it can do everything the Uni can(without being over ridden)
The price is right

And now for the drawbacks:
I still havent recived the info I requested
It could potentaly distroy my ECU/ENGINE/CAR
And at half the price of the Uni and Uni tuning software, I will have extra cash laying around in my bank account with nowhere to go

The last one was a joke there are plenty of ways to spend $400 on a MINI

So if anyone reading this has any experiance with the Sniper and its capabilities let me know if it is worth a damn or not

 

Sounds way to good to be true.

 

Do you have this device & software in your possession?

Any info on this "sniper" is pretty thin...........

 

I will now be actively lurking and following the progress on this thread....

C ya,
Dutch

 

No I havent bought it (yet) Steve as soon as I get some more info on it I will be strongly concidering it over the Uni(if its not junk) I could afford to order this with my RMW header on the 15th.

I kinda agree with Newbs on it so far, all the info I have found online has been pretty vauge, and until I hear otherwise I will hold off on tuning solutions all togeather.

Joe?, if you read the thread from the start you know that I am on the other side of the world from my car, and I will be stuck here until atleast FEB 2011. I am still deciding on what parts to run in this area of my build, and wont see any of it until I return home next year. But you are more than welcome to join in and stay posted on all the choices I make, and when it is done I will post the results.

 

I *have* read this from the start. February next year, eh? That's ok, it gives me plenty of time to save up my meager "toys" budget for one of those things should you get home and find out the thing works as advertised.... We don't (as far as I know) have E85 here in the frying pan, but squeezing a few extra ponies out of the car would always be welcome. So far, all I have done is the one-ball exhaust mod and modded the stock airbox. Both are worthy improvements, but I see a 15% pulley (and cooler plugs) in my future, as well as a few other bits and bobs here and there, and it'd be nice to tweak the computer's air/fuel maps and timing maps to really take advantage of it all. Keeping it appearing as (mechanically) stock as possible is one of my goals, too. Ya gotta love a sleeper....

Stay outa harm's way, d00d!

C ya,
Dutch