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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Anyone running a Riss catch can with an Alta CAI and hard pipe?

I need to know before I buy the can. From the pictures I have found, it doesn't look like it will fit. I called Alta and they weren't sure. Riss won't answer the phone or e-mail...

I'm hoping someone here can tell me if they definitely work together.

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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Install the Catchcan on the passenger side of the plastic bulkhead near the battery box .You will need to make 2 L shaped brakets (VERY EASY TO DO) and attach with 2 bolts and 2 nuts , use a hose cutter to cut the egr hose to fit.

VERY SIMPLE VERY EASY
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesHunt
Install the Catchcan on the passenger side of the plastic bulkhead near the battery box .You will need to make 2 L shaped brakets (VERY EASY TO DO) and attach with 2 bolts and 2 nuts , use a hose cutter to cut the egr hose to fit.

VERY SIMPLE VERY EASY
Yeah looks like I might have to do that I guess. I was hoping to get something that bolts up though. I moved to NJ from NH a couple of years ago. Now I live in a condo. No more garage, no more tools.

I really apreciate all of your help. Thank you.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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I keep trying to make those L brakets, but all of mine come out looking like 7's.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 03:43 PM
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RR Catch Can Brackets

Hey Guys,
The catch can kit comes with the bracket you need. It is just a bolt on. Here is a photo I took that shows the bracket (with all the hardware). I'm selling mine as it won't fit using this braket with my Defenders of Speed CAI. I did a test fit when I had my DoS CAI out of the car (cleaning the filter) and the bracket works perfectly.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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Hey Guys,
The catch can kit comes with the bracket you need. It is just a bolt on. Here is a photo I took that shows the bracket (with all the hardware). I'm selling mine as it won't fit using this braket with my Defenders of Speed CAI. I did a test fit when I had my DoS CAI out of the car (cleaning the filter) and the bracket works perfectly.
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I have a dos cai and my catch can fits
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 04:47 PM
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I have a dos cai and my catch can fits
James,
Yep, you certainly can put it in on the passanger side. I did that with the catch can I got from NM Engr. But if you want to use the bracket that comes with the RR kit it is set up to install to the drivers side of the OEM airbox.
Maybe one could cut and bend the provided bracket to use on the passanger side though - might have to think about that one.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 06:14 PM
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Source for nice catch can brackets

Some of the catch can mounting brackets that I've seen leave something to be desired.

Check out the "Pump Mounting Kits" on this page:

http://www.siliconeintakes.com/index.php?cPath=12&osCsid=fc8b028e2b9d35a60812743a c2f276f8




Imagine a catch can where the pump is located in this pic. Something like this allows for easy mounting & easy removal for emptying the can. I've used a very similar setup to mount the catch can on my R53. Just measure the OD of the catch can and you're all set to order-up a mounting kit.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 09MellowJCW
Yeah looks like I might have to do that I guess. I was hoping to get something that bolts up though. I moved to NJ from NH a couple of years ago. Now I live in a condo. No more garage, no more tools.

I really apreciate all of your help. Thank you.
Bring it down to Philly, I'll drill a couple of holes for you for free
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mini'mon
Some of the catch can mounting brackets that I've seen leave something to be desired.

Check out the "Pump Mounting Kits" on this page:

http://www.siliconeintakes.com/index.php?cPath=12&osCsid=fc8b028e2b9d35a60812743a c2f276f8




Imagine a catch can where the pump is located in this pic. Something like this allows for easy mounting & easy removal for emptying the can. I've used a very similar setup to mount the catch can on my R53. Just measure the OD of the catch can and you're all set to order-up a mounting kit.
Clint,
Thanks for the web site. This is much nicer than the one I made. Now I'm going to have to get this and redo mine.
Cheers,
Greg
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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can anyone post a picture of how it looks like when installed?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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Thanks for the link Mini'mon. I just bought the Riss can from Greg. If it doesn't miraculously fit where it's supposed to go I'll be using one of these brackets for sure. Great find, you just made my install a lot easier.

Not as easy as Helix though, LOL! So, how far is Philly?
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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thats my install.... took 10 minutes
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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Yeah dunphyj, It looks good over there. I just ordered one of those pump clamps. I'm thinking of putting mine in the same place. I was just worried about drilling into some wires or something back there. I guess you didn't have any problems though.

Thanks for the pic.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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battery, but there's plenty of room between the wall and battery.....
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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battery, but there's plenty of room between the wall and battery.....
That's right. I don't know what I was thinking . I was worrying for nothing. Duh... Once again, Thank you
 
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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We have recently released our catch can system that features a bracket designed to allow mounting in multiple locations. It also comes with billet fittings that make it so you do not have to cut your factory hosing.

You can see more details on it here. Thanks.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...catch-can.html
 
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BSH Speedshop
We have recently released our catch can system that features a bracket designed to allow mounting in multiple locations. It also comes with billet fittings that make it so you do not have to cut your factory hosing.

You can see more details on it here. Thanks.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...catch-can.html

Wow, I really like that. I wish I had seen it before I ordered one from another vendor. I would have bought this one if I'd known about it for sure.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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Thank you for the kind words. This catch can system along with our other newly released Mini products have been in development for some time. Sorry we missed you! Best of luck with your installation.
 
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If I didn't grab my Riss racing one I would have gotten a BSH can... Much easier and no cutting, where's the down side?!?
 
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Originally Posted by BSH Speedshop
We have recently released our catch can system that features a bracket designed to allow mounting in multiple locations. It also comes with billet fittings that make it so you do not have to cut your factory hosing.

You can see more details on it here. Thanks.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...catch-can.html
Looks nice, but where are the two locations you say you have it set up to be installed? I see the one is the small bracket to the right of the OEM airbox, but where is the other?
I also like the nice fittings for the line going from the right side (viewed from the front) of the valve cover to the turbo inlet. However, it seems that the other PCV line is potentially more of a problem. The PCV line from the left side of the valve cover to the throttle body has been identified as a problem on direct injection engines and may be the source of the "carbonized intake valves" that some N14 engines have been experiencing. Any thoughts on making similar fittings to be used on that side (giving the buyer an option of which PCV line to install in)?
Thanks.
Greg
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 10:56 AM
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Thank you for your questions.

To see the possible fitment positions please view our installation instructions seen here R56 Competition Catch Can Instructions

As for the second port on the rear of the valve cover we have made provision for this as well. I will quote the text from a different thread where this was explained. Please feel free to ask any questions you might have, we are prepared with answers.

Originally Posted by BSH Speedshop
Bringing up an old thread as we have recently released our solution to this issue.

Over the past few months we have been inspecting and testing new methods of controlling blowby on the R56 engine. We have learned the inner workings of the valve cover and its system of check valves.

We have found, and tested thoroughly, that the check valve leading to the port on the side of the valve cover will always remain open regardless of situation, where as on the rear it will close under boost (very logical)

As such we released two products that when used in conjunction with each other block off blowby exiting the rear and directing all blowby through the side port, through our catch can, and pressure is allowed to return to the intake once clean in order to remain emissions compliant.

These products are our:
BSH R56 Competition Catch Can
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BSH R56 Direct Dual Boost Tap

If anyone has questions on these products, their function, manufacturing process etc, please feel free to ask. We look forward to serving you.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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These images will also help.

Blockoff installed:


Boost Tap Installed:
 
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soo pretty! now does it actually "block off" that port leaving it open for a boost tap? and if it actually blocks off the piece wouldn't that make the engine stall? or is it just an adaptor?

sorry... i'm full of questions, and potential buys :P
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dunphyj
soo pretty! now does it actually "block off" that port leaving it open for a boost tap? and if it actually blocks off the piece wouldn't that make the engine stall? or is it just an adaptor?

sorry... i'm full of questions, and potential buys :P
Boost pressure enters the boost tap from the opposite side (intake manifold side) allowing the tap to still perform its function while it is also functioning as a PCV port blockoff.

The blockoff only changes the direction of PCV gas flow, in this case it directs everything out the side port, through the catch can, and then back into the intake once filtered. This has no affect on the running condition of the engine.

We've tested this for quite some time on both this application and on systems we manufacture for other cars that utilize similar OEM layouts. Removing the ability of boost pressure to ever act on the PCV system is an enourmous plus especially when you consider what can happen should a check valve weaken or fail.
 
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