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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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in hind sight i actually answered my own question... it wouldn't stall if it blocked it off... however in figuring this out, would blocking off the intake manifold/cam vent, would that make all the vapors go to the intake turbo inlet side.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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That is exactly correct. This way all blowby gets filtered in our catch can (which is baffled unlike others we have seen here) and than the pressure is allowed to travel to the intake pre turbo keeping emissions compliance in check.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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.... i want one......
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dunphyj
soo pretty! now does it actually "block off" that port leaving it open for a boost tap? and if it actually blocks off the piece wouldn't that make the engine stall? or is it just an adaptor?

sorry... i'm full of questions, and potential buys :P
JP,
I like the stealth looks of the BSH can, but neither of the two install points will work with the DoS intake. The can won't fit on the bracket on the driver's side of the plastic bulkhead because that is too close to where the DoS intake goes through the bulkhead. The other location requires removing the stock snorkle tube that the DoS Intake also uses. You should be able to use the clip that Clint (Mini'mon) showed in an earlier post and put the can on another location on the bulkhead. This picture shows my install with the 42 Draft Design catch can (which has a really cool baffling technique) using the clip that Clint showed.

I like BSH's solution to tapping into the lines (I'm into neat engineering solutions) and their can has a baffle (unlike m7, alta, or RR). So I might get their can and install it in the turbo inlet side tube.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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figured as much, and also why vacuum would pull oil vapors into the intake manifold.

last question pending ordering... there is a two wired sensor/valve (not sure which it is but it seems to be some on/off switch cuz of the two rather than three wires), if you block off the other side of the crank case with your blockoff/boost piece, will that disrupt the flow of pressure in the crank case? after all i understand under boost, but will it function when normally there's a vacuum? and as a secondary concern, would the turbo/intake be sucking enough air to still equalize the system when it's not under boost?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NAProf
JP,
I like the stealth looks of the BSH can, but neither of the two install points will work with the DoS intake. The can won't fit on the bracket on the driver's side of the plastic bulkhead because that is too close to where the DoS intake goes through the bulkhead. The other location requires removing the stock snorkle tube that the DoS Intake also uses. You should be able to use the clip that Clint (Mini'mon) showed in an earlier post and put the can on another location on the bulkhead. This picture shows my install with the 42 Draft Design catch can (which has a really cool baffling technique) using the clip that Clint showed.

I like BSH's solution to tapping into the lines (I'm into neat engineering solutions) and their can has a baffle (unlike m7, alta, or RR). So I might get their can and install it in the turbo inlet side tube.
Cheers,
Greg
i actually already have the catch can... i'm asking about the boost/vacuum line adaptor they sell... my picture of mine is on the other page... and i run it with a DoS intake as well

 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dunphyj
i actually already have the catch can... i'm asking about the boost/vacuum line adaptor they sell...
D'oh! That would be post 13. Not firing on all cylinders tonight. Your idea sounds good. Putting the adapter in would mean that you only need one can and that would be in the other line. Much cheaper than buying two cans (so I'm a little slow on the uptake, but I finally get it).

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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NAProf
D'oh! That would be post 13. Not firing on all cylinders tonight. Your idea sounds good. Putting the adapter in would mean that you only need one can and that would be in the other line. Much cheaper than buying two cans (so I'm a little slow on the uptake, but I finally get it).

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Greg
it's cool man... i was having a terrible 4th cylinder misfire all tuesday and wednesday :P since the snow storm is out and motoring is possible again i'm finally functioning again
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dunphyj
figured as much, and also why vacuum would pull oil vapors into the intake manifold.

last question pending ordering... there is a two wired sensor/valve (not sure which it is but it seems to be some on/off switch cuz of the two rather than three wires), if you block off the other side of the crank case with your blockoff/boost piece, will that disrupt the flow of pressure in the crank case? after all i understand under boost, but will it function when normally there's a vacuum? and as a secondary concern, would the turbo/intake be sucking enough air to still equalize the system when it's not under boost?
PCV gasses want to flow to a low pressure area. No matter what, that is what they look for. The intake pre turbo is always a low pressure area, and as such pcv gasses will naturally rush to it.

Please let me know if this needs further clarification.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BSH Speedshop
These images will also help.

Blockoff installed:


Boost Tap Installed:
Alright, I'm in. I'm going to send the other vendors back (was going to install it today...) I'll be calling to order one of these when you open.

So what's the price on this little piece?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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The boost taps are $59 with free freight right now. Here is a link to the product on our website BSH Direct Dual Boost Tap

This product, as well as our complete line, is also available from popular vendors such as Detroit Tuned, Helix Performance, Mini Mania, North American Motorsports, and Way Motor Works so if you have an existing relationship with any of these shops we would be honored if you would support our dealers.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 12:48 PM
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Well, I just ordered the pair. I'll put up a review and some pics as soon as it's installed.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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i'm so in on the boost taps! my next paycheck, this is first thing i'm getting, i can live off ez mac for a week :P
 
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 09MellowJCW
Well, I just ordered the pair. I'll put up a review and some pics as soon as it's installed.
Thank you for the order. This will be shipping out today
 
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