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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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After market exhaust too loud.

Wanted to post this here to help fellow Mini owners. I purchased the Alta headers (with cat) and exhaust and installed this weekend. The car sounds good but it is too loud for my taste.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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Too loud? What were you hoping for?
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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especially if u put headers on, it'll be even louder then it suppose to be, check my vids on youtube. type in Mini Cooper Zoomer
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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I'd agree - too loud? I've got the JCW exhaust and I think it's too patsy. I've thought of removing the resonator. Anyone done this and does it "pop" too much? I like the tone, just want a little more vibes.

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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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I'd agree - too loud? I've got the JCW exhaust and I think it's too patsy. I've thought of removing the resonator. Anyone done this and does it "pop" too much?
Do it.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jarl66
Wanted to post this here to help fellow Mini owners. I purchased the Alta headers (with cat) and exhaust and installed this weekend. The car sounds good but it is too loud for my taste. I will post a video clip so you can judge by yourself.
You can add dynamat to the car or...just take the header/exhaust off
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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I'd agree - too loud? I've got the JCW exhaust and I think it's too patsy. I've thought of removing the resonator. Anyone done this and does it "pop" too much? I like the tone, just want a little more vibes.

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Yes I have, but I also have the Clubman.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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you might be able to have a local muffler shop weld a resonator or a muffler of sorts to help keep the noise down. its good you have a cat on there too that should help.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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i had that setup. there really isn't anywhere else to put another resonator to quiet it down.

change it back to the stock and you might find that the alta is still too loud. i personally like the volume and sound of the header with high flow cat but couldn't do it on a daily anymore.

this is a crappy capture but this is how mine used to sound:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6836680&hl=en#
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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sounds good glnr13.. very deep
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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I have no cat and the stock one ball exhaust and its not loud at all. I guess Ive been spending too much time around NA S2000's...
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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Want to trade for a quieter Invidia exhaust?? lol
 
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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I wanted a better sound than OEM, and I got it. The problem is that I was not expecting it to be so loud. But it is growing on me, problem is that I can see cops after me if I open it up in the street.
 

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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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hahah dont open it up in front of cops! hahaha what i do is just roll when i see a cop=P i had my exhaust/header for 2 yrz, never got a ticket xD
 
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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i have the obx header and obx exhuast with the stock cat in place and its perfect loud when given the beans and i can curise on the motorway at 80-90mph with no drone at all
 
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas Cooper
I'd agree - too loud? I've got the JCW exhaust and I think it's too patsy. I've thought of removing the resonator. Anyone done this and does it "pop" too much? I like the tone, just want a little more vibes.

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On my 2006 MCS, I too thought the JCW exhaust was too quiet. I removed the resonator and thought the volume was OK but there was too much snap, crackle, and pop. I removed the JCW and installed a Borla Sport, the volume and tone was great but it droned on the highway too much because I do not have a back seat or rear insulation. I removed the Borla and installed a Milltek cat-back. The tone is good and it is louder than the JCW but quieter than the Borla. It does not drone on the highway. However, I would like it just a little louder but it is a good compromise.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 05:50 AM
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On my 2006 MCS, I too thought the JCW exhaust was too quiet. I removed the resonator and thought the volume was OK but there was too much snap, crackle, and pop. I removed the JCW and installed a Borla Sport, the volume and tone was great but it droned on the highway too much because I do not have a back seat or rear insulation. I removed the Borla and installed a Milltek cat-back. The tone is good and it is louder than the JCW but quieter than the Borla. It does not drone on the highway. However, I would like it just a little louder but it is a good compromise.
My R55 JCW doesn't pop anymore than it did stock after I took out the resonator. The sound is pretty much exactly the same on mine, can just hear more of the good 4cyl burble to it at start up, and when the turbo kicks in. I wonder how much different that was with the R56.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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The amount of snap, crackle, pop depends on the Generation and the model of Mini. The later Gen 1 MCS's were programmed to pop on deacceleration so the removal of the resonator has a larger impact on the deacceleration pop. My car being a GP with no back seat or rear insulation also made the snappy pop more noticable.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by quikmni
The amount of snap, crackle, pop depends on the Generation and the model of Mini. The later Gen 1 MCS's were programmed to pop on deacceleration so the removal of the resonator has a larger impact on the deacceleration pop. My car being a GP with no back seat or rear insulation also made the snappy pop more noticable.
Oh ok, I wasn't thinking R53... my bad. Makes sense now.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Cooper
I'd agree - too loud? I've got the JCW exhaust and I think it's too patsy. I've thought of removing the resonator. Anyone done this and does it "pop" too much? I like the tone, just want a little more vibes.

Texas Cooper
I did. When I put in a B&M short shifter the dust cover forced the heat shield down and there was firm contact with the resonator. It sounded like a tractor pull inside the car so I had the resonator removed. On an '05 with the standard "burble" and no resonator the POP is rather pronounced. I would describe it as dropping firecrackers in a coffee can. It gets attention when you lift off of the go pedal near pedestrians.

However, when I put in a rear seat delete kit there is no longer anything to muffle the noise that comes through the vents just below the rear hatch and I'm getting tired of the pop. I love the raspiness of the JCW without the resonator, but since I can't get rid of the burble/pop I'm just about to install an aftermarket resonator.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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That setup actually isn't that loud...my setup is a lot louder. If you don't like it, I'd try putting the OEM header back on. If that's still too loud...well, then just stick with the stock exhaust.

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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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On my old '02 S I had installed a Remus exhaust. It was perfect. I would really like to get another for the '06 but they are just so bloody expensive.

Still saving my change tho.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Maybe you should hear mine, you would probably appreciate how quiet yours really is .... Mynes stepped header/test pipe/Alta 3"-----WAAAYYYY TOO LOUD!!!
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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damn M!N!, u're kwazee! hahah
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 11:13 PM
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Maybe you should hear mine, you would probably appreciate how quiet yours really is .... Mynes stepped header/test pipe/Alta 3"-----WAAAYYYY TOO LOUD!!!
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