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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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That's why some people are scared to drag race because of these variables. Road racing is more forgiving due to fact you have several laps to make up for your mistakes.
Not for qualifying positions or single lap time attack type events. By your argument it would seem to me they are equally as difficult. One mistake on a flying lap and you don't win, it's just the same.
Some would argue road racing is in fact harder as they car actually has to last more than a dozen seconds to amount to anything, let alone win.
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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That's why some people are scared to drag race because of these variables. Road racing is more forgiving due to fact you have several laps to make up for your mistakes.

Scared .

It's not about scared it's about the fun factor. I've been down the 1/4 mile and the amount of time and effort it take to get few second ride blows.

I go to the local carting track twice a week and the fun I have doing that blows away all the sitting around I did at the drag strip.

Bryan
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by minimarks
Thing is Paul you keep trying to use the 1/4 mile as a measuring stick to compare horsepower/mods/tune/etc as if a 1/4 mile of asphalt is a 1/4 mile of asphalt wherever it is.. Way to many varibles; altitude, humidity, temps, condition of the asphalt itself just to name a few to use this... If it were true Mr Coil would tell John's boys how he wants the engines built and then sit back in his easychair and watch the NHRA season go by...

Basically the same thing Jan's been trying to say I think about dyno's and when and where you do them and the METH gives a more consistant reading because the IT's are more consistant... Correct me if I'm wrong Jan.
Holy S..., don't Jan and Jay are arguing the same point, that the drag strip has too many variables. Cats and dog will be living together, pigs will be flying........Hell will be a skating rink.
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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Scared .

It's not about scared it's about the fun factor. I've been down the 1/4 mile and the amount of time and effort it take to get few second ride blows.

I go to the local carting track twice a week and the fun I have doing that blows away all the sitting around I did at the drag strip.

Bryan
Exactly my point, thanks!

And I am sure if your car ran good times at either track, you and your partner would be posting the records "AT THE TRACK!!!" lol! This stuff is hiliarious.

Alright guys I am done here, have a great time talking back and fourth in circles. Good luck

And Big Howe, great numbers by the way, I forgot to mention that to you before.
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytech

And Big Howe, great numbers by the way, I forgot to mention that to you before.
Thanks.
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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So are you say this guys car was magical or something? With a baseline of almost 45 hp over stock, with only a pulley? BMW must have accidentally slipped in a BV head or something?
So? Guess I will try and answer it myself. Lets throw out some ideas on how these numbers could be made.

1. Maybe this guy had a BV head and didn't know it?

2. Maybe he's running a 22% pulley and a cam or something?

3. Maybe he had a really, really, REALLY, strong car from the factory?

4. Maybe hes not telling the truth?

5. Maybe the dyno reading was high?

6.?

Now lets go back thru these and look at them.

1. Naa.

2. Naa

3. Naa

4. Dont think he would do that, as he got a slip.

5. Seems to be the most logical.

6.?

So?
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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Yes and on the day it made 331bhp with the IAT starting at 50 (after burnout)and reaching 70c, where as on the road its going from 25 to 45c under the same accelaration tests.

As I've said many times before MPH / weight = Horsepower, forget the ET.

The slicks were actually circuit slicks not drag racing slicks and the 60ft was 2.6-2.7 with them, so with the right launch technique it'll go faster.

I reckon at the BMW show in Sept the car will go 111+mph

You have to remember the fastest Jans El D (his drag car) has gone is 14.2, and he has had loads of drag racing experience.

BUT YOU SAID THE CAR MADE 330WHP NOT BHP

JAN NEVER DROVE HIS DRAG CAR..... EVER.... what he drove was his street car with 280whp ...

Yes Paul, that "drag racing experience" was in BB Chevy's that are RWD
Originally Posted by jaytech
Yep and I still have that video because I was there. His car made really good power, but drag racing is not that easy as people think. Time doesn't wait for you when you make mistakes (i.e. excessive wheel spin, missing gears, shifting too soon due to wheel spin etc).

Glad you agree that all these things make a difference
Please take out your trusty calculator and run 280whp on a 100deg F day in Palmdale at 2600ft and see if it isn't faster than a 13.8 in England

I find it hilarious that my "drag car" was my daily driver...... wow facts have gotten real short around here
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JIMINNI
So? Guess I will try and answer it myself. Lets throw out some ideas on how these numbers could be made.

1. Maybe this guy had a BV head and didn't know it?

2. Maybe he's running a 22% pulley and a cam or something?

3. Maybe he had a really, really, REALLY, strong car from the factory?

4. Maybe hes not telling the truth?

5. Maybe the dyno reading was high?

6.?

Now lets go back thru these and look at them.

1. Naa.

2. Naa

3. Naa

4. Dont think he would do that, as he got a slip.

5. Seems to be the most logical.

6.?

So?
Did you miss the memo about a certain convertible?
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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BUT YOU SAID THE CAR MADE 330WHP NOT BHP

JAN NEVER DROVE HIS DRAG CAR..... EVER.... what he drove was his street car with 280whp ...

Yes Paul, that "drag racing experience" was in BB Chevy's that are RWD



Glad you agree that all these things make a difference
Please take out your trusty calculator and run 280whp on a 100deg F day in Palmdale at 2600ft and see if it isn't faster than a 13.8 in England

I find it hilarious that my "drag car" was my daily driver...... wow facts have gotten real short around here

I think we were referring and talking about the twin-charge (EL D) car that Hubie made for you, and you drove it back and fourth from Irvine to Phoenix on 16th St and Thomas to be exact. We are talking about the one you ran with the twin-charge (EL D) and ran 14's at Palmdale, should post the video on YouTube and share the link, or should that get dropped? We are not talking about the drag car that was built at DRS then to Gintani and suppose to made 600whp and ran 9 seconds.... no not that drag car Jan. So which drag car you didn't drive...? I think everyone can guess now... it sure wasn't the 600whp 9sec one. Because you said it yourself, you never drove your drag car.
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytech
have a great time talking back and fourth in circles. Good luck
Sounds a lot like NASCAR...........
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytech
I think we were referring and talking about the twin-charge (EL D) car that Hubie made for you, and you drove it back and fourth from Irvine to Phoenix on 16th St and Thomas to be exact. We are talking about the one you ran with the twin-charge (EL D) and ran 14's at Palmdale, should post the video on YouTube and share the link, or should that get dropped? We are not talking about the drag car that was built at DRS then to Gintani and suppose to made 600whp and ran 9 seconds.... no not that drag car Jan. So which drag car you didn't drive...? I think everyone can guess now... it sure wasn't the 600whp 9sec one. Because you said it yourself, you never drove your drag car.
I new you would get sucked back in . What didn't you understand from his explanation .

LB
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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I new you would get sucked back in . What didn't you understand from his explanation .

LB
Yep, but I don't think you or him didn't understand Paul post. Just don't quote my post or post anything towards my comments and I will have no reason to return.
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytech
Exactly my point, thanks!

And I am sure if your car ran good times at either track, you and your partner would be posting the records "AT THE TRACK!!!" lol! This stuff is hiliarious.

Alright guys I am done here, have a great time talking back and fourth in circles. Good luck

And Big Howe, great numbers by the way, I forgot to mention that to you before.
Who's my partenr Jay? You still trying to work that angle .

Oh and it's hilarious not hiliarious .

LB
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Who's my partenr Jay? You still trying to work that angle .

Oh and it's hilarious not hiliarious .

LB
Oh the Hiliarious

You caught that! Nice... did that on purpose. Figure out why.

Do I need to dig up the voice recording my man? Didn't want to go there, but..... It's not even worth my time, everyone knows so what's the point.
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Yep, but I don't think you or him didn't understand Paul post. Just don't quote my post or post anything towards my comments and I will have no reason to return.
Should be:

Yes, But I don't think you or Jan understood Paul's post.

I love the way you write because I get ***** all the time for my spelling or lack of. Spell check can help me but for you not so much.

See, I can keep you here all day .

LB
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini


Should be:

Yes, But I don't think you or Jan understood Paul's post.

I love the way you write because I get ***** all the time for my spelling or lack of. Spell check can help me but for you not so much.

See, I can keep you here all day .
LB
Dude, please you screw up spelling all the time, so what?. Don't point your finger at me. That's why your thumb is pointing back at you. You can't find anything else wrong... you tried with the the MYNES closing down thread, DSPORT Article and now it's spelling... I am getting a kick out of this on how hard you try. . And I don't mind being here all day, maybe some truth will spill out by keeping me here. There is a Tube link here.
 
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Originally Posted by jaytech
I think we were referring and talking about the twin-charge (EL D) car that Hubie made for you, and you drove it back and fourth from Irvine to Phoenix on 16th St and Thomas to be exact. We are talking about the one you ran with the twin-charge (EL D) and ran 14's at Palmdale, should post the video on YouTube and share the link, or should that get dropped? We are not talking about the drag car that was built at DRS then to Gintani and suppose to made 600whp and ran 9 seconds.... no not that drag car Jan. So which drag car you didn't drive...? I think everyone can guess now... it sure wasn't the 600whp 9sec one. Because you said it yourself, you never drove your drag car.

post whatever you like.... as I said... a daily driver is NOT a drag car but if it makes you feel like more of a man.... then good on ya

btw.... did you do the calculations yet? A sorry *** twincharge went faster on street tires...... corrected........
 
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Originally Posted by JIMINNI
So? Guess I will try and answer it myself. Lets throw out some ideas on how these numbers could be made.

1. Maybe this guy had a BV head and didn't know it?

2. Maybe he's running a 22% pulley and a cam or something?

3. Maybe he had a really, really, REALLY, strong car from the factory?

4. Maybe hes not telling the truth?

5. Maybe the dyno reading was high?

6.?

Now lets go back thru these and look at them.

1. Naa.

2. Naa

3. Naa

4. Dont think he would do that, as he got a slip.

5. Seems to be the most logical.

6.?

So?
this is what the customer said it was. I have NEVER seen the car before.... it is what he says it is.....

but here is the stinger........... yet...... YOU BELIEVE Mikes car with a bone stock car with STOCK pulley made 170whp on a Mustang dyno and you DON'T question it......

strange I tell ya...... strange............
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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post whatever you like.... as I said... a daily driver is NOT a drag car but if it makes you feel like more of a man.... then good on ya

btw.... did you do the calculations yet? A sorry *** twincharge went faster on street tires...... corrected........
Wow curse words now!


Wish is granted... maybe some pics of a block and rod for the frosting on the cake.
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Is Jan's El D parked next to Jan's GP ? do you think there on antidepressants due to a lack of use
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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this is what the customer said it was. I have NEVER seen the car before.... it is what he says it is.....

but here is the stinger........... yet...... YOU BELIEVE Mikes car with a bone stock car with STOCK pulley made 170whp on a Mustang dyno and you DON'T question it......

strange I tell ya...... strange............
This is not about Mikes car, or my car, or............its about this guys car. So you tuned it not knowing what he had on it? Wow really?
 
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post whatever you like.... as I said... a daily driver is NOT a drag car but if it makes you feel like more of a man.... then good on ya

btw.... did you do the calculations yet? A sorry *** twincharge went faster on street tires...... corrected........
So my Mini which is a daily driver / parts hauler is not a drag car even though it can run 11.64 @ 119.5, Kewl
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Oh and BTW, lets look at part of his quote again, "Last week at RMW it pulled:"

Hmm.... he said it was at RMW. Was this car not at your shop? He is from Studio City.
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Edit: sorry jan already responded to this (crappy iphone)

Ask your friends at Mynes about strong cars from the factory. Their shop r53 got 171whp bone stock and 191 whp with just a tune (stock pulley). Or do you only question results from Jan?

Originally Posted by JIMINNI
So? Guess I will try and answer it myself. Lets throw out some ideas on how these numbers could be made.

1. Maybe this guy had a BV head and didn't know it?

2. Maybe he's running a 22% pulley and a cam or something?

3. Maybe he had a really, really, REALLY, strong car from the factory?

4. Maybe hes not telling the truth?

5. Maybe the dyno reading was high?

6.?

Now lets go back thru these and look at them.

1. Naa.

2. Naa

3. Naa

4. Dont think he would do that, as he got a slip.

5. Seems to be the most logical.

6.?

So?
 
Old Aug 26, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytech
Wow curse words now!


Wish is granted... maybe some pics of a block and rod for the frosting on the cake.

get it up......


Originally Posted by Paul Webster
Is Jan's El D parked next to Jan's GP ? do you think there on antidepressants due to a lack of use
roflmao.....No, ....... but Last time I was home I drove the GP around for awhile..... El D's motor is getting something ..... VERY VERY SPECIAL.....
 

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