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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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Nazrin, i don't think you want to go for any of the CM kits. After all, Jan recommends them!
 
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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I'll give you a hint....HPF
http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/perf...ch/Clutch_Kits

9 times out of 10 if HPF carries it, they approve it.
 

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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 01:00 AM
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LOL..discodan....Jan has nothing to do with my decision....I also want to note that Hubie, Paul@1320 and a few others also recommends the CM...

anyways, as I said..if the SPEC, CM, ACT & OS Giken are all the same price...which one would you go for?

as I said, it must be able to handle 300++HP, easy to use & street friendly.and ofcos no chatter....
 
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Nazrin
LOL..discodan....Jan has nothing to do with my decision....I also want to note that Hubie, Paul@1320 and a few others also recommends the CM...

anyways, as I said..if the SPEC, CM, ACT & OS Giken are all the same price...which one would you go for?

as I said, it must be able to handle 300++HP, easy to use & street friendly.and ofcos no chatter....
300hp would be no problem on the Giken Unit. The thing feels like it's made for 500hp. And no Chatter. It's more money, but you get what you pay for. They been very good about asking for feed back on the clutch after I put it in. I perhaps a slightly weaker version for stock cars would be in order as I think the unit they sell is probably overkill for a stock car. They are very open and said they could make one up immediately. The claim on the one I've got is for 375whp (LOL I wish we had that). Since it's broken in a bit more I now think it's just right for our 200whp car. People ask me to compare it and it feels very very similar to the stock unit in weight and pick up in the 911 GT3.
And FWIW we put the ACT flywheel with a CM clutch in a car about 3 months ago. No chatter right off the bat but the customer did call back about a month later and note he could hear chatter and brought it by for us to listen. It's not as much chatter as the Fidanza's we've put in but it was some chatter. I'd say his chatter was liveable where the Fidanza chatter was not. The Giken makes a slight whorring noise when the clutch is depressed (they told me to expect it) as you can hear the plates. Was paddocked next to an EVO with an exedy multiplate at the track 2 weeks ago and it made the exact same noise. It's apparently part of having the multiplate design. It's only slight and only when you have the clutch depressed. I'll take some video of ours if anyone wants to hear it. Not sure you'll be able to hear it over the exhaust now.

As for info on the Giken Clutch, I did a write up when we put it in as I think I'm one of the only ones to use it so far... Linky---> https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-fw-combo.html
 

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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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Should I go FX300 or FX400? I have a JB Racing LW flywheel ready to go, and my stock clutch is feeling the hard effects of a few track days and lots of aggressive driving, more importantly a lot of annoying stop and go traffic.

I don't want to have to change it again. Ever. Don't care about chatter, don't care about pedal effort. Just want grip, no slip.

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I just had a Clutch Masters Fx400 6 puck clutch and matching flywheel installed on my car.

I had heard a lot of stories about this combo not being very street-able.

I don't see where this opinion comes from, I find the clutch to be very close to the stock feel for engagement. The clutch pedal is a little stiffer, but not annoying. I even tried some hills to see if it would be a problem and was happy to see that this was not a concern.

When I get some more miles on it, I will update this post.

Overall I am very happy with this installation, thanks go out to Dr. Fuh for his excellent work and clutch suggestions, plus the power from the new engine he built for me is fantastic

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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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Well 1 week into the FX400 including a trip up the coast to Malibu along PCH.

No problems, no regrets, completely street-able and not having any problem holding DR. Fuh's MEGA HORSEPOWER.

I think this combo is a winner.

Bill
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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well a little chatter is no problem I guess....My car is loud anyways LOL
so now ive narrowed it down to the ACT and OS Giken....
need more info wrt performance and price...
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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I hear ACT and OS are up there in quality and cost.

My CM flywheel and FX 200 clutch are working well for me! RMW had great pricing for me last year too.

What diff are you going to run?

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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dont know if i want to install a diff....dont think I would need it for my needs..as I wont track my car and will only be using it on the street
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Do you have a stock lsd or stock open diff Nazrin? If it's a stock open diff I'd really consider upgrading while doing your flywheel and clutch.

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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No LSD on my car...so I guess its a stock open diff? why get a LSD? i dont think i wanna spend an extra 1000 for a LSD....
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Nazrin
No LSD on my car...so I guess its a stock open diff? why get a LSD? i dont think i wanna spend an extra 1000 for a LSD....
Wow you really haven't a clue about this stuff . If you're making any real power you need/want a good LSD.

As for a good clutch I currently have the CM stage 4 but the OS Giken is getting some awesome reviews.


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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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LOL LB..yeap...no clue at all...dat why im always asking questions to you guys...I never pretended to know anything..so thanks for all the feedback, i really2 appreciate it..

but wont it be overkill to have a LSD? I wont be gunning it from standstill...the power will only be needed on the freeway...
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Nazrin
LOL LB..yeap...no clue at all...dat why im always asking questions to you guys...I never pretended to know anything..so thanks for all the feedback, i really2 appreciate it..

but wont it be overkill to have a LSD? I wont be gunning it from standstill...the power will only be needed on the freeway...
So you picked the Mini as you freeway power car?? I think you bought the wrong car man. Your missing the best part the Mini has to offer. Turning!

Its a go-kart not a high speed cruiser.

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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yeah I know right..and im missing out on all the legendary cornering that i keep hearing about...

sadly in Brunei, there are no tracks & no drag strips...just B roads and 'NO LIMIT' freeways...BUT thankfully, ive got the Beemer 330 and Porsche for my cruising needs too...so...no biggie...

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Nazrin
yeah I know right..and im missing out on all the legendary cornering that i keep hearing about...

sadly in Brunei, there are no tracks & no drag strips...just B roads and 'NO LIMIT' freeways...

BUT thankfully, ive got the Beemer 330 and Porsche for my cruising needs too...so...no biggie...
Well I guess to answer your question then no, you don't really need an LSD for your Freeway flier.

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Thanks for that LB...thats what I thought

see? I do know a lil bout that kinda stuff anyways...heheh
 
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nazrin
No LSD on my car...so I guess its a stock open diff? why get a LSD? i dont think i wanna spend an extra 1000 for a LSD....
For differential explosion see this thread Nazrin. https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...nsmission.html

I'm no fan of single pinned open diffs. I'm surprised nobody has developed a cross pin diff for our MINIs yet.

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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
Wow you really haven't a clue about this stuff . If you're making any real power you need/want a good LSD.

As for a good clutch I currently have the CM stage 4 but the OS Giken is getting some awesome reviews.


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but is it twice as good?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 06:50 AM
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The LSD will help the car get out of the hole a bit better. Since putting ours in the car leaves the line much better. Something I did note is it's a bit less fun (on the street) because it flat out won't spin the tires anymore. With the open diff you could pretty much at will spin A tire in 1st gear and 2nd gear in a slight corner. Other then the plowing understeer it was kinda fun, now even in the wet it just grabs and goes unless your very judicial with it. I'd be willing to bet the thing gets to the 60ft mark at least 2 maybe 3/10ths better with the Giken diff in there then it did with the open diff. 1st gear use to be a complete waste as you couldn't even think about wide open throttle. Now 1st gear is completely useable. Even with the bald street tires. On the track it was a night and day transformation as one would expect.
 

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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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A bit off topic but does having a better clutch and lighter flywheel free up any HP?
 
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