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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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Aftermarket Clutch & Flywheel

Im think to get one of the following combos:

- SPEC Stage2+ with SPEC Flywheel
- CM FX400 (6 puck) with CM Flywheel
- ACT HD Pressure Plate/Performance Street Disc with ACT Flywheel

Im looking for a system which is easy to use, no clatter and can take the performance of up to more then 300++BHP...

note that my car will only be gunned on our "No speed Limit" highways...please advise

but im leaning towards the ACT....
 
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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Just a quick point. ANY flywheel that does not have the "Dual-mass" of the original will result in 'clatter'. Period!
 
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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Avoid SPEC at all cost.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 05:21 AM
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I have the ACT clutch and flywheel. Been 2 weeks since install with no chatter. I like it.

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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 08:47 AM
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Great!!! what ACT kit did you get? Im really interested in the ACT cos I havent heard any bad reviews bout the ACT...
 
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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I am running the ACT Streetlite flywheel - part #600315 and the Heavy Duty Performance Street Clutch Kit - part #BM2-HDSS. Increased effort to depress the clutch pedal but not enough to be a problem. Engages about halfway up. Positive engagement - hooks up quick and solid.

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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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if you are only going to be "stretching its legs on the open highway" you will be fine with the stock setup
 
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Do you actually need to replace the clutch? If it is still good you can build the car out and see how long the stock one lasts. There is no point in spending money on a new one when the stock one may end up lasting quite a while.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Are you upgrading because your old clutch is going bad? I've heard many say that unless your making bigger power, the OEM set up is actually powerful enough to withstand it. The only reason why one would upgrade is either because their making too much power for the clutch or because their replacing the worn out OEM one. (A new OEM clutch costs as much as a aftermarket at the dealership)
 
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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thanks for the feedback guys...the reason for this is dat:
- mini parts are not readily available in my country (apart from the stealership)
- dont know how long my oem clutch will last
- my mini will be a 300+bhp monster in the next 1-2 month and dunno if the oem clutch can take it
- want to get a replacement now and install it once my oem clutch goes bust....cos i dont want my car to be lying around waiting for an aftermarket one to be ordered....
 
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nazrin
thanks for the feedback guys...the reason for this is dat:
- mini parts are not readily available in my country (apart from the stealership)
- dont know how long my oem clutch will last
- my mini will be a 300+bhp monster in the next 1-2 month and dunno if the oem clutch can take it
- want to get a replacement now and install it once my oem clutch goes bust....cos i dont want my car to be lying around waiting for an aftermarket one to be ordered....
I can understand the last thing. Having the car sitting around while you wait on part would suck, just realize that unless you have a catastrophic failure a dying clutch is something that happens over time. That is, once you notice it slipping you still have a bit of drivabilty left in it before it completely stops working. If you have the money though, go for the new one, then you dont have to worry about it at all.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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are there any aftermarket dual mass lightweight flywheels?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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There is another good reason to replace the clutch and flywheel - if you are installing a Quaife or other LSD. That's why I replaced my clutch. Once it is torn down for the Quaife installation, you might as well upgrade your clutch if you're considering it.

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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 01:32 AM
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+1 on the Quaife Diff install, so you can actually use some of those 300hp out of the corners.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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Hmmm...but I dont track or race my car guys....I think LSD would be a lil overkill for my needs....especially when im gonna gun my car on the highways...

So, any more takers? Im down to ACT and CM for my clutch and flywheel needs...
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Everybody says stay away from SPEC and I have no clue why...I guess stories from others? I have had SPEC in 4 different cars and not one issue.
I have the SPEC stg.2+ and SPEC alum flywheel in my MINI and I love it. There is chatter but you are gonna get it with any aftermarket flywheel. You are in Brunei yea? I'm in Kuwait and I know how you feel about the readily accessible parts(slim to none)
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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yeap...there are no mini aftermarket parts here...all the performance shops here only deal with Japanese cars....but look at the bright side, at least im a master of getting cheap parts for huge power for the Mini....

okay, i think i should rephrase the question: If the parts I mentioned was all the same price, which one would you go for? Any other parts outside this list is welcomed for a discussion
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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SPEC----simply because I've used the same clutch kit(stg.2+/alum flywheel) on different cars and haven't had an issue. 2003 Mustang GT, 2001 VW Jetta 1.8T, 2003 BMW 330CI, 2004 MINI S.....4 different types of cars, different sized engines, followed proper break-in procedure, and didn't have any gripes other than the chatter but gotta deal with it or don't buy an aftermarket flywheel(besides it really isn't that bad).
Now to all the people that say stay away from it, YOUR experiencesare probably what would help his decision....not what you heard or read about.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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yeap..i agree....

so..any takers?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Nazrin
yeap...there are no mini aftermarket parts here...all the performance shops here only deal with Japanese cars....but look at the bright side, at least im a master of getting cheap parts for huge power for the Mini....

okay, i think i should rephrase the question: If the parts I mentioned was all the same price, which one would you go for? Any other parts outside this list is welcomed for a discussion
exedy would be a good bet for you if only on availability thru the japanese tuners? might be worth a look? considering one for myself at the moment
 
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:31 AM
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heard a few in the UK using Exedy...but feedback is saying that its a very hard clutch to master and clutch pedal was waaaay hard...too hard for Daily driving...

but thanks for that, I have considered it in the past thou...
 
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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I just had a Clutch Masters Fx400 6 puck clutch and matching flywheel installed on my car.

I had heard a lot of stories about this combo not being very street-able.

I don't see where this opinion comes from, I find the clutch to be very close to the stock feel for engagement. The clutch pedal is a little stiffer, but not annoying. I even tried some hills to see if it would be a problem and was happy to see that this was not a concern.

When I get some more miles on it, I will update this post.

Overall I am very happy with this installation, thanks go out to Dr. Fuh for his excellent work and clutch suggestions, plus the power from the new engine he built for me is fantastic

Bill
 
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Don Racine
Just a quick point. ANY flywheel that does not have the "Dual-mass" of the original will result in 'clatter'. Period!
Negative... Put the OS Giken Clutch and flywheel package... (after removing a fidanza) NO CHATTER.
As for the clutch, Pedal pressure is the same or slightly stiffer then stock. The pick up is quite aggressive when first installed but as it broke in it's become far more manageable. I relate the clutch take up to that of a 911 GT3. Overall extremely impressed! And what a welcome sign to not have chatter any more.

And Must agree with the post above. We've put spec's in customer cars and removed spec's from customer cars. Rarely do they make 50k miles before some sort of slip, or just flat out failure. And not just in Mini's.
 

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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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Like I said in my original post - ACT clutch and flywheel = NO CHATTER. However, my MCS is pretty loud so maybe I just don't hear it.

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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Maitland.....where can I see more info on the OS Giken kit? Ive tried to search on their site but coudnt find any application for the Mini...

and firenewt....Ive never heard anything bad bout the ACT kit....thats why I said im leaning more towards that....ACT looks quality IMHO...
 
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