Absolutely! If we thought it would take that long we wouldn't be wasting our time talking about it now. Its been something almost 2 years in the making and there is lots of money and time spent on it so far. Which is why we are making lots of efforts to make this happen NOW, not next summer.

 

Now as in before spring ?

 

patience my friend.....patience... This tune will help us all. I can barely wait too!! (I have an R53 AND an R55 waiting for this tune!)

 

what sort of power gains are we lookin at for the R56? mine is stock w/ the exception of an alta CAI.

 

With a proper tune (maximized fuel map, timing and approx 20psi) you should see about a 20whp increase.

 

RMW tunes see ~30/30 on a stock car.......

........using 16.5 psi.

 

Alta is basing the 20/20 gain if you have a Alta cai installed

 

But Wait, There's More !
if you order now, they'll throw in a free check engine light !

 

Damn now i have boogers on my lcd

 

I wish Alta sold AST coilovers that way i could take advantage of the 20% off sale.

 

Funny that?! 20psi on the stock turbo will take it out. Its already a known fact among most that anything over 17-18psi on the stock turbo is as much as you would likke to go unless upgrading or wanting a huge bill very often. RMW's tune will see you larger gains with way less boost (17-18psi) so the mapping you are doing must be pretty novice if you ask me. P-Torque in the UK have been tuning the cars since a few months after the launch and they will never boost the car over 17-18psi and they know thier stuff big time.

Maybe time for a rethink on you mapping Alta!

 

wow.. someone needs to let MINI know since a JCW can hit 19 stock. True, it's modified a little but it's basically the same turbo.

 

Yea...while I think its silly that Alta needs to use 20psi to get less results out of a tune than Jan's...I do not think that 20psi = turbo go boom.

It can run it...but theres no point in it. More is less sometimes. My only comment was that Jan can get 30+ out of a stock car, using boost as low as 16.5psi. 20 psi is totally unecessary, and simply too much.

For such a revolutionary tune that has been 2 year in the making...it's seems less than impressive based on Jarid's post above.

 

Thanks for the poke Nitro. Funny you mention this now that other companies with catted downpipes are having the same p0420 issues. I had a chance to speak with a MINI field service engineer about the P0420 code. It has been confirmed not only by him but also by a BMW/MINI Master tech and a Service manager that the P0420 is an information code only. It doest not trim the fuel or timing map. While yes it is a annoying light....it is only that.
As for the numbers I quoted it was meant to say roughly 20hp on a stock car. I think I got the boost pressure misquoted when I was speaking to Jeff about this. I will double check tomorrow AM.
PRIMINSTAR I notice looking thru your posts you somehow think that at 20.1PSI that the MINI turbo will explode. This is far from the truth. Can you provide documentation or anything to back up your ka-boom statement?

 

Jarid

Will the Jcw map show smaller gains or will you up the boost to 20+ ?

Imho the jcw maps will add timing advance and fuel adjustments without
upping the boost.

 

Jarid,

will the person in Oregon who buys my current Mini with the CEL p0420 (from the Alta dp) pass emissions testing with this code?

 

I don't think you can pass emissions with the CEL on. After clearing it, doesnt it take a while to come back on? You could always clear it right before pulling into the station.

 

you can't clear the code just before inspection, you will still fail because the emissions codes will read "inc" for incomplete. you need to drive the car until the drive cycle monitor can read all the sub systems. have a look at your OBDII reader to monitor you drive cycle or do a state OBDII check on the reader and you see what i'm talking about.

 

Yes, with overboost. They run 17 normally. Jan will not go above 17.5 because the car runs too lean. so, yes you can increase boost to what ever you want but I doubt you will gain much more. And yes I have seen this on a dyno while Jan was tuning several cars, too much boost and car runs lean.

 

Codes stay in the system for a while. Not so easy to clear and head in for the test. Explanation of how codes are stored from Bentley Manual
This is from the R50/52/53 manual.

 

As Killerfox mentioned, you can't just clear the faults before you drive in, the ECM has to have met all the conditions & set 'readiness'. Also the P0420 usually pops up once as a pending code even if the CEL hasn't tripped yet. When the CEL does trip, you'll find there are (at least) 2 stored P0420's in memory.

Ya it does suck that 1 of the other manufacturers has run into the same problem (not exhaust depot), BUT, they're providing the o2 sim free to anyone who bought a catted downpipe and got a CEL.

 

+1.

He showed a few pics of a MINI that was apparently his friends...with motor that had blown because of the tune. However, I think there's a lot more to the story than just the boost level which caused it to go boom.

 

Complete Nuts. The JCW Turbo is way different. It has much much stronger internals and more compressor fins so the turbo has to work way less to produce higher boost pressures thus not maxing it out like the standard one. I know a few people with remaps running over 17-18psi and both within a few thousand miles are experiencing problems with the bearings and wastegates on otherwise stock cars.

 

I think not. The turbo bearing, seals and wastgates go very wrong when boosting too high iv seen it twice with my own eyes and am trying to help by warning people so ill have a little less of your sarcasm thank you!

Go on UK's MINITORQUE or MINI2 or and take a look at remapped boost pressures within the UK, they will never exceed 17-18psi and any that have people have never tested due to knowing the outcome. Infact if not contact Will at P-Torque (the first person to crack the R56 ECU) and ask him if he would ever exceed 17-18psi on a standard S Turbo, you will be suprised how weak the turbo is in some ways. Thats why people including me have started buying the factory JCW turbo to fit on the Standard S along with a tune so you lower the chances of the turbo going wrong.

 

So where do you get just a JCW turbo? If you install a factory JCW turbo, will that impact your warranty?

If you keep boost at or below 17 on a stock S turbo, will there be any long-term reliability issues?