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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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Jan, don't forget your friends up in the Pacific Northwest. Posted on PS Mini to ask everyone if they have an interest in a tuning party. Several people have already expressed an interest.

The Seattle area is great in the summer and we might even be able to arrange a few cold ones after the tuning session.

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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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He meant that a stock mini tuned by Jan, makes almost as much power as a very lightly modded one tuned by Jan. I think it has to do with the CAI. some are better than others. I dont like the open filter that has no backpressure so that = less torque.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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but are the closed off air filters really sealed off tightly enough to actually cause back pressure? Seems like they would have to be completely sealed in order to do anything??

on another note, I'm going to be really pissed if all the money and install work I put into this doens't produce as much power after tuning than a stock MCS.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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you will see a gain, how much?? I dont think you need to have allot of back pressure, just a little is good. I think, but then again I dont have a Dyno, only a but.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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I expected a tune to take advantage of all the aftermarket parts and bring them to life - possibly 20+ more hp than stock after a tune on both - Am I crazy to expect this? Or did I waste a lot of money based on aftermarket company promotions....
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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No question, with the mods you have you should see more than that. The other car he did only had a intake and catback. You should see atleast 20hp over a stock car. I hope....
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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if you get him to come to pr im down for a tune also!!!!!

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If I pay you the airplane ticket would you come one afternoon to tune my car??
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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That would be sweet if it were 20+ more hp It would make gnawing up my knuckles, etc worth it....But not holding my breath....
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PoktRokt
I expected a tune to take advantage of all the aftermarket parts and bring them to life - possibly 20+ more hp than stock after a tune on both - Am I crazy to expect this? Or did I waste a lot of money based on aftermarket company promotions....
True story...sad realization of all of us who spent obscene money on parts just because a company said they would help oh so much, myself inculded.

Immiedately upon seeing Jan's tune I realized I had spent too much money. You will see increase with your parts yes, but don't expect a lot more. Remember, unless you intended to put on parts to make it run more efficiently and then took it to a dyno only to find it is slower or minutely faster, you were a victim of advertising or didn't really do your research. I'm not sayying I'm not much faster than stock, but for bolt on's you could say I am.

You live and you learn...you can expect that the next thing I buy will either prove its worth with research, charts, and graphs or it's staying on the shelf.

I hope I eat my words, but unfortunately all I did was throw money at the next big thing becase it seemed good at the time. Like I said, lesson learned...
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PoktRokt
^^^What are you insinuating?? I don't get it?
That a mini with a tune makes more power than the one without a tune. Isn't it clear from the dyno run...
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Thats a given anyways...
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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No highjack intended, we should talk a see what interest is going to be in our area. Our club had a baseline dyno day last Feb., Dynojet unit, so lots of variables involved.

Let's take it to PM. I need to check with some of the MINI5280 R56 folks and a few of the R53 folks. Your Sept. event looks booked unless your doing a 3 day event.

Don

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Hey Don,

I am putting together a RMW tune party right now in Utah. Jan was planning on coming here in Sept. but if we get the numbers he will come sooner. Right now I have 2 R56 and 10 R53's scheduled. Maybe we could work together to get the number of R56's higher?

We have a brand new Dynapac coming to a local shop here in Utah in June. Price per hour will be $100-$110. Let me know what you and your club thinks about getting together
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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He said a modified mini made less tq with his tune than a bone stock r56 with his tune.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumperMCS
well....according to the dyno sheet of the stock car on page 2...

the car yesterday actually made 1 ft-lb in peak torque than the stock car...206.5 ft-lbs.... I know that car very well
This what you are referring too..it made one more...
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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Ya'll are wrong...

The car he did with the intake and exhaust was not tuned....on the BASELINE dyno of it compared to the BASELINE dyno of the stock car....it only made 1 ft-lb, and 4 hp at the wheels more than the stock one.

The tune of the intake/exhaust car should be completed by tomorrow and expect to see gains over what the tuned stock car put down earlier this week.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 07:17 AM
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Ahhhhhhhhh I see...totally was confused, thanks Thumper.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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EDIT: Nevermind.... I looked at dtsoccer6's signature... if he's at 205whp/223wtq without a tune... that answers our question!
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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Nevermind I get it now, the explanation was poor IMO.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Ok Jan,


Time to put down the wrenches and post the results of the JCW tune!
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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How does back pressure make more torque with a turbo none of the back pressure make it to the engine
 
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AkFarina
How does back pressure make more torque with a turbo none of the back pressure make it to the engine
"back pressure" is a pre-historic tuning myth, drop it from your vocabulary. Short story, some ancient redneck gorillas got back pressure mixed up with exhaust velocity, eg. too big of a pipe and they started losing power, and thus figured they needed some restriction.
Since it's an exhaust system principal, it should also never be used in the same sentence as cold air intake .
 
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Noegel
EDIT: Nevermind.... I looked at dtsoccer6's signature... if he's at 205whp/223wtq without a tune... that answers our question!
What question? I hope to shout he's at 205 with all the crap he has. (No offense Steve ). Few thoughts on it though, A) It would seem to me his car is probably a pretty strong one to begin with B) it would probably put down some pretty good numbers when tuned...assuming it can be tuned correctly.

Originally Posted by richi0207
Nevermind I get it now, the explanation was poor IMO.
What explanation? Mine?

PS. the car being discussed...that I was discussing was mine.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 04:53 AM
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Jan, what are the chances of making the flash include the possibility of using the sport button thus:

new standard mode = current sport mode (including steering weight)
new sport mode = RMW tuned map + all the usual sport stuff (exhaust + steering weight)
 
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by etalj
Jan, what are the chances of making the flash include the possibility of using the sport button thus:

new standard mode = current sport mode (including steering weight)
new sport mode = RMW tuned map + all the usual sport stuff (exhaust + steering weight)
not going to happen with this ecu

of course it's best to say.... never say never?
 
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