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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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Catless Downpipe Options?

Hey guys I did a search and read through some threads but I was wondering if this was the only catless downpipe?

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...pe-fitted.html

Also I have a 09 JCW car ... will these downpipes still fit?

What other options are out there???
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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you could use the exhaust depot one it cuts out both cats. but it throws all sorts of cels. the one you metioned above only throws one if that. i just ordered that one
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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The ragazzon is a direct fit to your stock exhaust. The exhaust depot dp has to be welded on. As far as throwing codes, there is no difference between the two because the secondary cat is after the second O2 sensor. I'm currently throwing code P0420 with the Ragazzon. I will be trying out the non-fouler method this weekend to see if it helps at all.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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Tintman , how long do you have your Ragazzon for? how long did it take to throw a code? so far , im pushing it for a week with the fouler and everything is OK
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tintman718
The ragazzon is a direct fit to your stock exhaust. The exhaust depot dp has to be welded on. As far as throwing codes, there is no difference between the two because the secondary cat is after the second O2 sensor. I'm currently throwing code P0420 with the Ragazzon. I will be trying out the non-fouler method this weekend to see if it helps at all.
I used the fouler method on my old Evo's test pipe and it worked great.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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So there are two cats on the car?

Does the Ragazzon only remove the first one? Ideally I would want something that removes both and that you run a CEL fix on like this:

http://rissracing.com/alpha/?page_id...3&product_id=7
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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what is the non fowler method
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AkFarina
what is the non fowler method
Here you go:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...n-foulers.html

 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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cat back exhausts remove the second cat, and downpipe removes the first
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MiniPOLACK
cat back exhausts remove the second cat, and downpipe removes the first

Aaaah:

Cat-Back ----> from the cat back, so it leaves the cat, hence cat back.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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how is the noise without the cats? highway drone etc?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JAceMin
Aaaah:

Cat-Back ----> from the cat back, so it leaves the cat, hence cat back.
Any photos of the 2ndary cats???
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MiniPOLACK
Tintman , how long do you have your Ragazzon for? how long did it take to throw a code? so far , im pushing it for a week with the fouler and everything is OK
I've had the downpipe for almost a month now. My car will throw a code within a day. It takes two complete drive cycles to trigger a cat code.

Did you use two non-foulers? (one being drilled and one not?)
That sounds great that you made it a week without a code. Honestly, if you made it that long, it's very unlikely it will in the future.
 
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I just used one non fouler on the bottom sensor ( after cat ) , that fouler has one hole on the bottom. i picked it up in pep boys. i think one package contains 2 pieces.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MiniPOLACK
I just used one non fouler on the bottom sensor ( after cat ) , that fouler has one hole on the bottom. i picked it up in pep boys. i think one package contains 2 pieces.
So you didn't drill it? I'm guessing the reason people with other cars used two is because their O2 sensors are deeper then ours.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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no its not that. people want to put the non fouler on the first sensor ( pre-cat ) which is way thicker and it wont fit that hole. in a first place, you dont need the non fouler on that sensor .

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