Drivetrain Heat shield
Heat shield
I know that heat shields are used to keep Hood scoops from melting, but what else do they do for a MINI?
I have a "warm air" intake on my mini and i was wondering:
If i put a heat shield on (like M7's) would it keep a little bit of that warm/hot air from making its way to the air filter or would it only keep the hood scoop from melting?
I have a "warm air" intake on my mini and i was wondering:
If i put a heat shield on (like M7's) would it keep a little bit of that warm/hot air from making its way to the air filter or would it only keep the hood scoop from melting?
Yes/No. Consult the laws of thermodynamics (Wikipedia is a good start) for details. Suffice it to say you want to keep heat inside the exaust (driving) side of the turbo, outside the cold intake (driven) side of the turbo, and outside the engine compartment.
The more energy (heat is energy) inside the exhaust side the more energy is imparted to the turbine wheel the more energy there is to compress the intake charge.
The fluid cooler on the turbo is there to reduce heat transfer to the intake compression side and prevent heat soak on shutdown (which is why the pump runs after shutdown). It's a balance of space and design engineering limits. The intercooler helps to lower the compressed intake temps from the heat induced by compression and from transfer in the turbo.
You should keep the heat in the exhaust system until it is out of the engine compartment.
And here is a resource that states what I just said:
http://books.google.com/books?id=rF-...esult#PPA75,M1
The more energy (heat is energy) inside the exhaust side the more energy is imparted to the turbine wheel the more energy there is to compress the intake charge.
The fluid cooler on the turbo is there to reduce heat transfer to the intake compression side and prevent heat soak on shutdown (which is why the pump runs after shutdown). It's a balance of space and design engineering limits. The intercooler helps to lower the compressed intake temps from the heat induced by compression and from transfer in the turbo.
You should keep the heat in the exhaust system until it is out of the engine compartment.
And here is a resource that states what I just said:
http://books.google.com/books?id=rF-...esult#PPA75,M1
Last edited by MINIutia; Feb 27, 2009 at 02:26 PM. Reason: Resource found
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So in theory if i fabricate an air duct running from the Hood scoop all the way to the air filter in the back of the engine compartment, (without any form of heat shield in place), will this duct get hot up by where the turbo is?
If if does all you would really need to do is put some heat insulation on the under side of this duct where the trubo is right? (this is all to keep the intake air as cool as possble)
Heres a picture of what i mean:

*edit* Not my mini, or intake system
If if does all you would really need to do is put some heat insulation on the under side of this duct where the trubo is right? (this is all to keep the intake air as cool as possble)
Heres a picture of what i mean:

*edit* Not my mini, or intake system
Last edited by Shrashmere; Mar 11, 2009 at 05:11 PM.
true..
I just had another idea tho,
What if you make the hood scoop focus on the turbo, with a sharp bend downward,
and than make a small scoop above the hood line like the r53's do,
and down through the back panel and into an air filter?
I just had another idea tho,
What if you make the hood scoop focus on the turbo, with a sharp bend downward,
and than make a small scoop above the hood line like the r53's do,
and down through the back panel and into an air filter?
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