Drivetrain $15,000 for mods. What do I get???
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course u could do the Porsche brake upgrade....but seriously man talk to jan...im in the navy myself and did lots of work through him....plus if you have an issue he is more than happy to help u through it...and for 15k you could break the 300+whp category...i did the header/cam/tune plus all the other bolt ons and a 15% pulley and put down 215 whp...trust me its attainable without breaking the bank
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Here's the Deal. I'm in the Navy and I have $15,000 to spend for mods. I have a paid off bone stock 2005 Mini Cooper S with 31,000 miles. My goal is to spank my brothers 2009 BMW 135i with those twin turbos. I would like to build a car with a reliable 250+ whp with the suspension to handle it. I've been doing alot of reading and theres quite a few options. Suggestions?
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http://www.motoringunderground.com/f...ighlight=widow
And here is the same car pulling well over 400 whp back in the day when Hubie was part of fireball Racing .
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...42718062714697
Randy
M7 Tuning
Last edited by maxmini; 02-21-2009 at 10:11 PM.
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Here is a link to one of Hubies old projects . Its about 2 years old but thats how long he has been making HIGH hp
http://www.motoringunderground.com/f...ighlight=widow
And here is the same car pulling well over 400 whp back in the day when Hubie was part of fireball Racing .
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...42718062714697
Randy
M7 Tuning
http://www.motoringunderground.com/f...ighlight=widow
And here is the same car pulling well over 400 whp back in the day when Hubie was part of fireball Racing .
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...42718062714697
Randy
M7 Tuning
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Here is a link to one of Hubies old projects . Its about 2 years old but thats how long he has been making HIGH hp
http://www.motoringunderground.com/f...ighlight=widow
And here is the same car pulling well over 400 whp back in the day when Hubie was part of fireball Racing .
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...42718062714697
Randy
M7 Tuning
http://www.motoringunderground.com/f...ighlight=widow
And here is the same car pulling well over 400 whp back in the day when Hubie was part of fireball Racing .
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...42718062714697
Randy
M7 Tuning
Damn...I havent seen those in a long time...
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I thought no one cared about drag MINI engines
Here's the dyno sheet for said engine
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I wasn't and no one does care about drag racing Mini's... that's the point
For the RECORD......... I didn't need to use a GT35R to get that power either
here was the first dyno on the RMW turbo car.... NOTE^^^^^ 13 PSI................365whp /308tq
yes.... 13PSI................................. It took your turbo car 28psi just to get close to it.............. NO NITROUS EITHER
How soon you forget I was the first Mini owner to ever get to 300whp and 350whp WITHOUT NITROUS.........first and ONLY to 300whp with a supercharged car on pump gas and NO NITROUS......
btw..................STILL WAITING FOR YOUR TURBO CAR TO BEAT THE TIME AT SOW............................................... ........................
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metaltometal,
All kidding aside,Jan is the one to go to for a performance Mini.The combination of drivability & performance is what allows you to get in your car daily(or every few hours ) and wear a big grin while doing it!
Move to California so you can be close to him and Danny(top notch mechanic @ Minicorsa)
-no disrespect intended to the "other" qualified tuners and mechanics in the Mini community
All kidding aside,Jan is the one to go to for a performance Mini.The combination of drivability & performance is what allows you to get in your car daily(or every few hours ) and wear a big grin while doing it!
Move to California so you can be close to him and Danny(top notch mechanic @ Minicorsa)
-no disrespect intended to the "other" qualified tuners and mechanics in the Mini community
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let's talk about the truth of turbo MINI cars.......... everyone is looking a peak numbers which doesn't tell the story at all...............
case in point
I will break this down for Paul and everyone else that gets confused with the charts............
even when you take the run that started at 900rpms......(try this at full load with a turbo and see what happens) the average hp was 148whp even though it ran another 1300 rpms of run time which affect the calculations Average torque was 788 ft lbs which converts to about 175-178 ft lbs AVERAGE even though it traveled 1300rpms more over the same time frame
so now lets compare a run on the supercharged car from 2400-7400 which was only 200 rpms less than the turbo cars run...............
average HP jumps to 178whp Big difference with that 1400rpms taken off........average tq was 840 converted to equal about 187 ft lbs ACROSS THE ENTIRE RANGE................................... as Paul has said numerous times......AREA UNDER THE CURVE IS BETTER THAN BIG HP
(thanks Paul )
Now let me help you with the dyno chart of the turbo... look no further than the stated AVERAGE HP IN THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER............(I wonder why this wasn't left on any of the other sheets posted around NAM?) I doubt you will see any more of these turbo cars posting those numbers.... it shows you how narrow the power band is and why the car is an on/off switch. When the TVS is complete I will post the final tally.... I can tell you already it's a slaughter of mythic proportions
so for 3 more psi of boost you get this........
average total power 134whp
average total torque 153wtq
as you can see........ big numbers don't equate to much unless you can keep it in a 2000 rpm band the whole time.........fun to drive around a track? Good luck Great to impress your friends.........definitely
Always.........make sure your tuner shows you that data, it's a telling story
case in point
I will break this down for Paul and everyone else that gets confused with the charts............
even when you take the run that started at 900rpms......(try this at full load with a turbo and see what happens) the average hp was 148whp even though it ran another 1300 rpms of run time which affect the calculations Average torque was 788 ft lbs which converts to about 175-178 ft lbs AVERAGE even though it traveled 1300rpms more over the same time frame
so now lets compare a run on the supercharged car from 2400-7400 which was only 200 rpms less than the turbo cars run...............
average HP jumps to 178whp Big difference with that 1400rpms taken off........average tq was 840 converted to equal about 187 ft lbs ACROSS THE ENTIRE RANGE................................... as Paul has said numerous times......AREA UNDER THE CURVE IS BETTER THAN BIG HP
(thanks Paul )
Now let me help you with the dyno chart of the turbo... look no further than the stated AVERAGE HP IN THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER............(I wonder why this wasn't left on any of the other sheets posted around NAM?) I doubt you will see any more of these turbo cars posting those numbers.... it shows you how narrow the power band is and why the car is an on/off switch. When the TVS is complete I will post the final tally.... I can tell you already it's a slaughter of mythic proportions
so for 3 more psi of boost you get this........
average total power 134whp
average total torque 153wtq
as you can see........ big numbers don't equate to much unless you can keep it in a 2000 rpm band the whole time.........fun to drive around a track? Good luck Great to impress your friends.........definitely
Always.........make sure your tuner shows you that data, it's a telling story
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[SIZE=2]Why would Jan at RMW be talking to a customer about the ABF performance Mynes tuned ecu MINI USA drag car [/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]I thought no one cared about drag MINI engines [/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]Here's the dyno sheet for said engine[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]I thought no one cared about drag MINI engines [/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]Here's the dyno sheet for said engine[/SIZE]
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And as for a race car, how many passes has it really made at 630hp+? I think it's dropped more valves than made successful passes.
Scheer's road race car is dropping valves at the high 300hp mark.
The black widow car car broke at the Eurotuner challenge running a 15 second 1/4 mi making 400hp+
I really wouldn't hang my hat on these three cars.
Last edited by big howe; 02-22-2009 at 08:24 AM.
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Its possible to disagree about things without having to put other's work and products down...
This was the final cut to why I will never have an RMW product on/in my car...
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