so over all you guys would take the ddm ris over the super ags... even tho the ris doesnt do much more than the super ags....

 

not me, i would not take any of those systems that channel air to your intake....
i said it once, just do an open air intake, and open your scoop, theres plenty of cold air coming in...my intake temps are always 10-20 degrees above ambient with this setup, and thats pretty good imo

 

So...... Just so everyone knows

I got the DDM Street Intake(easiest, cheapest, plus local to me)

I am going to get the DDM RIS scoop system

I have dremmeled out the holes in the plasstic grill of the scoop. (Because I just like the look of the grille too much)

I will also be testing the nm engineering strut brace with all the items to see if it fits(I will be working with namotors on that one)

My main motive was being able to hear the turbo spool.

 

i would add a scangauge to your order, just to see what kind of help its doing if there is any help

 

I'm getting my car Dynoed at 4 this afternoon at Stock and I will be doing it again after I get the intake, then after I got the scoop system. If you'd like I'll send you the results. I will also be posting them on this forum.

 

yeah post thats good...
but still if u can shell out for a scangauge that way you can monitor ur intake temps.....
im curious to see what they are

 

I wanna see the numbers, go go go.

 

Intakes DO make power, and especially on turbocharged cars, where the amount of air it can suck in is increased due to the forced induction.

Yea, an intake on a Honda NA 1.5 will be negligible, but say, on a new EVO or Mazdaspeed3, you'll see people getting between 10-20hp at the WHEELS with just an intake.

I wouldn't be surprised with ANY intake on a MINI making at least 3 more whp, conservatively. Probably more like 5-10 depending on the setup.

 

maybe 3-5 up top, a slightly noticeable difference...but im pretty sure if you put some ear plugs in, drive it, compare the open intake with the stock box and a drop in filter....you wont be able to tell which car has the intake and which doesnt.....that noise factor of pulling in air and hearing your wastegate squeal plays a huge role in the 'damn this thing is fast' scenario....

this is why i say get the cheapest intake, they all are the same, those large awkward intakes arent any better, neither is the scoop set up....the only reason people question all these intakes is because there are like 5 different kinds with different options and huge prices, being expensive doesnt always make it good.

 

Got the numbers. I will be posting them tonight. Mind you these numbers are the car before any mods.

 

just tell us

 

These are Dyno sheets of my car at stock. I just installed my DDMworks Street intake yesterday and will be getting it dynoed soon. At least when I get some money. My car is an automatic so they told me the dyno will show about 25% less on paper than the car actually has. But here you guys go!

 

A couple of things. On the dyno results, do these folks measure SAE and WHP? Seems low for the three runs. SAE dyno?

A data point for you, our recent runs measuring 4 R56s, one a 09 JCW.

Data with details over in the MINI5280 area.

Stock R56 MCS, 191 WHP
My MCSa (DDM WORKS Street Intake, stock exhaust, stock ecu) 205 WHP
Other MCS (ALTA CAI), stock exhaust, stock ecu) 205 WHP
09 JCW (DOS CAI), JCW WORKS Exhaust, 09 JCW ecu) 215 WHP

My MCSa made the same WHP on two different DYNO days, since I want to check for consistancy. DYNOJET Dyno.

All pulls done in 4th gear for the 6 speeds and 3rd gear for my MCSa. No overboost numbers, straight HP. 3 or 4 runs per MCS.

Only one point to be made, the CAI on the R56 will make horsepower.

Don

 

Just had the DDMWorks RIS install by DDMWorks. Had a 90 min. drive home and had some time to play. There was a noticeable SOP difference in engine response throughout the range but from 50 mph up under acceleration you can really feel it. A little bit of intake and BOV noise. Great fit and finish and great guy's to work with. Look forward to more products from them.

 

I dremmeled out my hood scoop so I could keep the "grill" look.

Here's the pix of the install and that little dremmel action.

 

Um.. I wonder if I could stick a bigger air filter on there

 

Bigger filter would be a good idea. I would get the longest that would fit.

 

Apparently, in their website, it is stated it will not fit a factory jcw...

Anyone has a clue why not?