I just installed and test drove(50miles) my new Shark Injector in my MCS. I already have ALTA Pulley, ALTA Intake, H-Sport Rear Swaybar,Scorpion Exhaust, and lighter than stock alloys with 215/45/17 toyo FZ4's.
My first impression is that it smoothed out the throttle response all thru the rev range. Actually made it more responsive and faster. I can't tell by how much, but a few hp's for sure. It will be interesting to find out after Randy Tests it out in a few weeks.
I' m through with performance Mods, my car is fast enough for me. Now I will turn toward exterior Mods, maybe color match the wheel arches and side skirts.
Maybe it will get even faster after the new ECU program gets used to the Mods. Regards, Itzamazn

 

Any chance of seeing some comparrison pictures of the injectors?? Probably to late but what about the cost and where to get them. Range from 1-10 difficult to install 10 being the hardest. Thanks, sounds like a sweet setup you have.

 

Nobull60: FYI The Shark Injector is one of the lowest priced ECU upgrades with switchability between stock and enhanced programming, not fuel injectors.

>>Any chance of seeing some comparrison pictures of the injectors?? Probably to late but what about the cost and where to get them. Range from 1-10 difficult to install 10 being the hardest. Thanks, sounds like a sweet setup you have.

 

What is the cost of the unit?
How about install, what was involved?
Do you have experience with Shark products in the past and why did you choose this particular ECU upgrade?

The ECU is likely my next performance upgrade.....I've been waiting ever so impatiently for the dust to settle on this topic so as to make the right decision.....any help would be appreciated

 

>>My first impression is that it smoothed out the throttle response all thru the rev range. Actually made it more responsive and faster. I can't tell by how much, but a few hp's for sure. It will be interesting to find out after Randy Tests it out in a few weeks.

That's dissapointing to hear that you can't tell much difference. If the ECU upgrade was comparable to the ones Randy is selling it should have given you 15hp kick in the butt! Should have been as noticeable as the Pulley or even more so. I'll wait until Randy does some testing..... Thanks for the review, let us know if you notice anything more after you put more miles on it.

If it's half the HP for Half the price, I'll keep my money in my wallet...

 

>>What is the cost of the unit? $399.00
>>How about install, what was involved? Takes about 30+ minutes and requires 10 amp battery charger.
>>Do you have experience with Shark products in the past and why did you choose this particular ECU upgrade? Have owned several BMW's so I know of the Sharks for them and they produce noticable gains.
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>>The ECU is likely my next performance upgrade.....I've been waiting ever so impatiently for the dust to settle on this topic so as to make the right decision.....any help would be appreciated. I got tired of waiting and believed that this product would be as good as any other on the market....but maybe not... time will tell, and I'm the Shark guinea pig..Regards, Itzamazn
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Fuel Injectors or Ecu?????

The title of the form says Injectors but you guyz are talking about ECU? which one is it?

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>>The title of the form says Injectors but you guyz are talking about ECU? which one is it?


The product called the "Shark-Injector" is a FLASH ECU update.

 

>>That's dissapointing to hear that you can't tell much difference. If the ECU upgrade was comparable to the ones Randy is selling it should have given you 15hp kick in the butt! Should have been as noticeable as the Pulley or even more so. I'll wait until Randy does some testing..... Thanks for the review, let us know if you notice anything more after you put more miles on it.
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>>If it's half the HP for Half the price, I'll keep my money in my wallet...

I'll be glad to let you know if a little time and mileage show any improvement, but it's certainly not comparable to the difference the pully alone made. My test drive was done in 80 degrees with the a/c on most of the time. It's cool out this morning and after an appointment with a Contractor and Insurance adjuster (tree fell on the house during storm the other night) I plan on putting another 50 miles on it.Regards, Itzamazn

 

Check this link if you don't know what a Shark Injector is:
http://www.bimmerworld.com/html/conf...e-software.htm

Yes, the name is confusing, but it is a ECU upgrade.

 

>>Fuel Injectors or Ecu?????
The title is correct.
The product is called the "Shark Injector"
see
http://www.stratmosphere.com/mini_shark.htm

>>The title of the form says Injectors but you guyz are talking about ECU? which one is it?

No one said this is a "Fuel" injector.

Mini Tuning by the Shark Injector (Pat. Pending)

Ground breaking technology with features unavailable with any other Mini tuning product. Designed and programmed by the master of BMW tuning, Jim Conforti. Conforti has been the acknowledged tuning expert in the BMW arena for some time. Now, he brings the Shark features to the Mini at an earth-shattering price of only $399!

Mini Tuning by the Shark Injector (Pat. Pending)

Ground breaking technology with features unavailable with any other Mini tuning product. Designed and programmed by the master of BMW tuning, Jim Conforti. Conforti has been the acknowledged tuning expert in the BMW arena for some time. Now, he brings the Shark features to the Mini at an earth-shattering price of only $399!

Benefits of the Mini Shark for the Cooper S:
You own the programming device that includes the performance software
Interfaces simply with your diagnostic port inside the car
Saves your "stock" program so that you can swap between "performance" and "stock" mode at will
Requires no tools
Takes any Cooper S with a pulley modification and makes it faster and smoother
Choose either 93 or 91 Octane version

How does it work?

1) You own the device for $399. You keep it. It can hold your stock program and the Shark modified program. You can switch at will. We load it here and send it to you (no ECU number or VIN number required). The software loaded onto the Shark will work for a stock car (no mods), a car with a pulley installed, a car with an airbox installed and a car with exhaust modifications. Or any combination of the prior modifications.
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I think we will need to have a full evaluation done on this and other ECU upgrades like the Powerchip, Evotech, GIAC chip upgrades. Look at the dyno difference, ease of use, etc.
The relative attractiveness of this product is it is ready now.
The price is $399
It is easy to use and stores your stock software ECU settings and can be tuned to your level of mods- intake, pulley, exhaust and octane used with any combination of these.

 

mobygjc,
Trippy is right, it's a new ECU re-map available from Eurosportonline, Turner Motorsport, Stratmosphere, and supposedly MiniMania for $399.00. Regards, Itzamazn

 

minihune,
Thanks and well said. aloha, Itzamazn

 

I'm with you. It doesn't sound worth - you should definitely notice 10-15 horses as more than improved throttle response. People seem to notice that with plugs that don't make any real HP. I don't think a reflashed ECU upgrade would get significantly better with time. One would think the software was already optimized. But it would be silly to write it off based on one review. Let's wait for the dyno data and a few more seat of the pants reviews! :smile:

 

greatgro,
Thanks for the positive imput, as you can imagine I feel a little silly at the moment. I'm hoping for the best, and somebody had to be the first to try this product. Everything I've read about it sounded good, especially the DIY attributes.
Jim Conforti's Sharks for BMW's are known to be good products, and the price was appealing. Wish me luck, Itzamazn

 

>>greatgro,
>>Thanks for the positive imput, as you can imagine I feel a little silly at the moment. I'm hoping for the best, and somebody had to be the first to try this product. Everything I've read about it sounded good, especially the DIY attributes.
>>Jim Conforti's Sharks for BMW's are known to be good products, and the price was appealing. Wish me luck, Itzamazn

Itzs-
Being the first is OK. You are the leader (not the guinea pig) and we are interested. You didn't spend $700 so our expectations should be appropriate to the investment. What if you said the increase was amazing? We'd all be rushing out and ordering it at the drop of a hat I think. Some of us are more cautious and waiting for the comparison review. Some are willing to spend a little less to get a measured increase and a stable/reliable and easy to use product. Dyno numbers are more objective but numbers can deceive as well.

A word on smoothness- there is something to be said about how well things work- how smoothly they function. There is value in smoothness (as opposed to stumbling and jerking). I would take quick and smooth over extremely fast and jerky anyday of the week.

Thanks for starting this thread.


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minihune,
Thanks for those encouraging words. the car is faster and smoother, I just can't say by how much.
I also do not want to "down" the product, it has improve my car and I have to put in a good word for Eurosportonline. Josh and Kai were very helpful and understanding.I must have called with questions 6 or7 times, they were always polite and helpful.
They even air freighted it to me at no extra cost because they were not able to get it out Monday as promised due to vendor delays.
To everyone out in Mini-land, minihune is right there is a lot to having a faster car that drives smoother. I can honestly say that alone in my opinion is worth the cost of this product. My car didn't stumble or yo-yo, but it was sorta on or off on the throttle. It's hard to explain unless you drove it for a while, but when you gave it throttle it didn't respond imediately then it would tear out. I didn't realize to what degree that it did this intil I installed the Shark Injector. I am sure the re-mapping of the throttle thru partial as well as full throttle is correcting/improving that .
Well, I'm out for a quick drive before my appointment with the Contractor (he called and is going to be late...cool!). Regards, Itzamazn

 

According to Turner Motorsport, the combination of the shark injector/pulley will give the car +30hp at the wheels. So, if the pulley provided 12-15hp of that, shouldn't the ECU provide the rest?

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Can the Injector be updated if a better ECU map comes out? I won't want to buy a new one every time an improvement is engineered.

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>>According to Turner Motorsport, the combination of the shark injector/pulley will give the car +30hp at the wheels. So, if the pulley provided 12-15hp of that, shouldn't the ECU provide the rest?

GB_Junkie,
I have taken a second road test this morning, 73 dgrees and no a/c, and I would have to say that the car is considerably faster and smoother, especially at higher rpms. If I had to guess I would say that the combination of pulley and Shark Injector maybe 20 to 25 hp, but I have no way of telling except by seat of the pants dyno. My car also has ALTA Intake,and Scorpion Exhaust which has to contribute a few hp, so maybe with all these mods there is a 30 hp gain.
Pretty soon Randy Webb will test this device and he will give us the real numbers. Itzamazn

 

I wouldn't buy into the hype until someone gets some hard data from dyno testing.

I've used the Conforti Shark Injector on my M3 a while back and let's just say I wasn't impressed.

In fact I dyno'd it with some other mods (sequentially of course) and found that I actually lost 2hp with the Shark injector. I have since gotten rid of the Shark and went the supercharged route.

Once someone comes out with an ECU upgrade and pulley combo that shows (dyno's) decent results I'll drop some money on it.

The old butt dyno is useless and without real evidence all this banter is pure speculation.

 

Yeah I'm really sorry! I didn't mean to rag on you - I was/am just a bit suspicious of a tuning product that is released to increase performance yet they didn't get it on the dyno yet. :smile: :smile:

 

actually there is a dyno chart here
TurnerMotorSport
In fact, they just changed the site and what they offer.

They are now offering Bosch sparkplugs as well...

Louay

 

>>actually there is a dyno chart here
>>TurnerMotorSport

Yes, according to the Dyno they did it should be performing on par with the EVo-Tech and the Powerchip ECU's so I can't wait for Randy to test it.

 

Is there any technical reason why you can't ship the
injector to someone so that they can try it out for themselves,
restore to stock, and ship it back to you?

(Hint hint)