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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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True, but..

..the floor has never looked faster. They go in on Monday. Can't wait!

Now, if only i'd had an RMW nailgun when laying that damn floor....
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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^^^ lol
Speaking of which, Custard, what day/time are you planning on?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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i see i'm down for Saturday, and i'm pretty flexable on time. I see that baxter is down for 9am and steves cooper s is at 10am, so i'm happy to do 11, 12, or anytime after.

How's 12 sound?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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I did the cam tonight, header tomorrow. It looks like the same header I have in my living room right now as well Its so pretty I want to frame it and look at it every day. So is the street header also called the shorty header? It looks like the same one I have, I just cant see too close since my Mac fell off the top of my car and the backlight no longer works
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ClintTheMiniOwner
I did the cam tonight, header tomorrow. It looks like the same header I have in my living room right now as well Its so pretty I want to frame it and look at it every day. So is the street header also called the shorty header? It looks like the same one I have, I just cant see too close since my Mac fell off the top of my car and the backlight no longer works
yes, the shorty is the street header

start the car after you get the header on let it warm up, shut it off and then spray it down with WD40 and then restart and let it burn off. The header will get a nice carmel color to it
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ClintTheMiniOwner
I did the cam tonight, header tomorrow. It looks like the same header I have in my living room right now as well Its so pretty I want to frame it and look at it every day. So is the street header also called the shorty header? It looks like the same one I have, I just cant see too close since my Mac fell off the top of my car and the backlight no longer works
yeah, i belive they're one and the same. Certainly a nice piece of kit. I'm liking the sound of your cam review. Sounds awesome. Can't wait to get mine installed. The 4th should be a fun day
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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Well. My car took a crap and can't make it to the tune. Sounds like a spun bearing or broken connecting rod bolt. Im tearing it down this weekend. I am very bummed out. The funny thing is... I got it on camera. This is the last drive. You really can't hear it unless you know what to listen for that is different from what I know as normal
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...49546038&hl=en

You can really hear it at the last half second
 

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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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Geez, that blows. Sorry to hear that Clint. Hope i doesn't turn out to be too spendy.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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just means can now do all RMW internals as well!!!
 
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 08:04 AM
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just means can now do all RMW internals as well!!!
Those are spendy parts... How much for the crate motor?
 
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ClintTheMiniOwner
Well. My car took a crap and can't make it to the tune. Sounds like a spun bearing or broken connecting rod bolt. Im tearing it down this weekend. I am very bummed out. The funny thing is... I got it on camera. This is the last drive. You really can't hear it unless you know what to listen for that is different from what I know as normal
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...49546038&hl=en

You can really hear it at the last half second
Are you double clutching/rev matching when you downshift? It would help reduce the shock to drivetrain.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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Are you double clutching/rev matching when you downshift? It would help reduce the shock to drivetrain.

the shock was from 4th gear to 2nd gear
 
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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the shock was from 4th gear to 2nd gear
No it was redlined at third and then crammed into second.
Never cell phone and race

I'm all about RPM matching, heal toe n stuff. You can hear it in the video-
 
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Hey guys... Enjoy those tunes! Looks like you guys might have some time left over for those micro brews!
 
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Clint, that sucks! I hope you and I can talk Jan into coming back once our cars are healthy. Yours seems much more sick than mine however.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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Got my car back today after the head, cam, and header install. Aside from throwing a too rich code (which I assume if from the 440’s and lack of tune) my 1st impressions is wow. Lots more pull, seems to have a much broader torque curve and very smooth. And when you really get on it – yikes! Makes an awesome noise, but holy cow it’s loud. Can’t imagine what the race header is like! Might be a little too loud, but we’ll see.
Can’t wait till Saturday and the tune to pull it all together and see what the gains really are.

PS - If anyone who's coming on Saturday is interested in some injectors, i have some 380's i'm selling.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Anyone want a cheap shrick cam to help pay for my rebuild
 
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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No but I would love a gently used RMW cam. Sorry I could not help myself. I'm sorry about what happened let us know if there is anything we can do to help. Jeff
 
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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Well, lets hear some numberz!!!
 
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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c'mon folks - how did it go today? We're all dying to hear!
 
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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Here are my results:

in: 202.8 whp, 179.7 lbft
out: 214.5 whp, 188.8 lbft

2005 MCS
stock cat back
RMW cam/header
HAI
Alta 15% pulley
JCW 380cc injectors
1 step colder plugs
Napa 60535 belt
E10 92 octane fuel

Exactly what I expected after looking at Searocko's results

-AndyW

 

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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyW318
I don't have the dyno plot for my car but here are my results:

in: 202.8 whp, 179.7 lbft
out: 214.5 whp, 188.8 lbft

2005 MCS
stock cat back
RMW cam/header
HAI
Alta 15% pulley
JCW 380cc injectors
1 step colder plugs
Napa 60535 belt
E10 92 octane fuel

Exactly what I expected after looking at Searocko's results

-AndyW
Congrats!

I had to do a double-take as it's virtually identical to my results! The stock cat-back is the secret!
 
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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I'm pretty beat from driving to and from Seattle in one day, but it was definitely a fun time and I would do it again. On to the results:

I have a 2002 MCS, early build with 95,000 kms (~65,000 miles).

Mods:
Alta 15% pulley
JCW 380 injectors
JCW spark plugs
JCW CAI with K&N filter
Dinan one-ball exhaust

Intial: 156.7 HP @ 6793 rpm / 149.3 lb-ft @ 3997 rpm
Final: 170.5 HP @ 6756 rpm / 154.4 lb-ft @ 4021 rpm

The car was having problems misfiring since I put on those mods from last week. It would only happen during high load situations in 4th gear and higher....it definitely was misfiring during the dyno runs. We swapped out a MAP sensor that was oily, but it still misfired, albeit much less. The dirty sensor was due to high mileage and probably someone putting on too much oil on the K&N filter during the install. I still have one small mis-fire down low at ~3500 rpm in 4th gear and higher. Overall the car is much more powerful, much smoother and I'm happy with the work Jan has done. I'll swap out the sensors, switch back to the old Dinan CAI, clean out the K&N filter, and change out the fuel filter as Jan has suggested and do some more testing. He also
suggested a compression check, which is good as this is an old car with some miles on it.

There is one thing I never noticed even on the baseline, was that at 4500 rpm, the intake flap is supposed to open and you should see a bit of spike in power (at least I saw them in previous dyno plots with the JCW intake). On mine there is none, which makes me think the install was done wrong or it's not getting sent the 14V signal to open the flap. Anyhow, I'll find out things once I start pulling off some parts.

Thanks to Jan and my understanding wife!

On a side note, i'm running the JCW Gates belt with the 15% pulley, does anyone have the part # for the NAPA 535 belt or can I just go into NAPA and they'll know what belt that is?
 

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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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I installed the header last week and all I have to say is wow. Great looking product and the sound is perfect. The re-tune went well and I got about 8 more hp and about 8 more tq. It has been said before but I will say it again, Jan is such a great person he takes time to get everything right. If anyone is on the fence about this tune don't be. It will put a smile on your face. Again my thanks go out to Jan and the guys at speed factory. See you all soon. Jeff
 
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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I am kinda tired after driving home as well. I got home at 5:00am. Straight thru from Tacoma with one stop for a 40min snooze and one for a 20min nap.

I have a 2003 MCS with 58,000 kms

Mods
Alta 15% pulley
JCW shorter belt
JCW spark plugs
K&N Typhoon
JCW exhaust
1 step colder plugs

Intial: 178.9 HP @ 6818 rpm / 157.9 lb-ft @ 3968 rpm
Final: 187.8 HP @ 7200 rpm / 166.8 lb-ft @ 3871 rpm

The tune was not a huge jump in power but the car feels better. Jan's improvements to the throttle map and softening of the traction control improves the driveablity. The simple action of pulling away at a traffic light is smoother (this maybe more of the placebo effect but I like it).
Jan mentioned I am limited a bit by not having the bigger injectors. So I guess I start saving for injectors and header, oh why not the cam as well.

Thanks to Jan.
 
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