Drivetrain Intercooler Cooling Tests
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Using your results there is about a 1 PSI difference in boost between the M7 DFIC and the GRS intercooler, I suspect this difference in boost is being dropped across the core of the GRS. If this is the case the total pressure drop across the core must be greater than 1 PSI - assuming the supercharger presents the same level of boost to the input of both intercoolers.
However, it's the ratio of pressure and temperature in the inlet manifold which determines air density and in this regard the GRS intercooler does a good job of optimising the two variables.
However, it's the ratio of pressure and temperature in the inlet manifold which determines air density and in this regard the GRS intercooler does a good job of optimising the two variables.
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From: Flitwick UK
I've had the GRS test IC on for a while and it only run the quickest ET at both Mini drag racing events this year with a stock cyl head. 13.6 @104.33 and 13.7 @ 102.
We'll hopefully do some back to back test at www.bmwshow.co.uk in a couple of weeks
We'll hopefully do some back to back test at www.bmwshow.co.uk in a couple of weeks
I've had the GRS test IC on for a while and it only run the quickest ET at both Mini drag racing events this year with a stock cyl head. 13.6 @104.33 and 13.7 @ 102.
We'll hopefully do some back to back test at www.bmwshow.co.uk in a couple of weeks
We'll hopefully do some back to back test at www.bmwshow.co.uk in a couple of weeks
LB
it's not important... Paul is the 2nd best driver in the UK in a MINI
did I mention his car is gutted?
Neutral
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I've had the GRS test IC on for a while and it only run the quickest ET at both Mini drag racing events this year with a stock cyl head. 13.6 @104.33 and 13.7 @ 102.
We'll hopefully do some back to back test at www.bmwshow.co.uk in a couple of weeks
We'll hopefully do some back to back test at www.bmwshow.co.uk in a couple of weeks
As part of your evaluation are you able to use a data logger to capture both temperature and boost in the inlet manifold? It would be nice to see how the air density changes with increasing intake temperatures.
Cheers
Darrin
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Intense, here's another Laminova based W2A to add to your wish list.
http://defendersofspeed.com/store/pr...p?id_product=5
http://defendersofspeed.com/store/pr...p?id_product=5
Is that just me? 
Yes it is...
the thing where the old IC was is just a flow tube. The log has a (two?) Laminova core in it. This unit has a very old history (first time I saw it, it was for sale on eBay as a take off from race car years ago!) and Clint of D.O.S. has been involved in modernizing the design for improved perfomance and manufacturability. Appearences can be decieving!
Matt
Matt
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I didn't realise you believe everything you read, heater core, front sound deading. rear upper seats, and rear speakers are missing. The front seats have been swopped for a pair of Kirkys.
But I do have the added weight of a NOS bottle and a full 8 point chrome moly cage tagged to go 8.50 in the 1/4.
Better to be on the the list than not at all
I didn't realise you believe everything you read, heater core, front sound deading. rear upper seats, and rear speakers are missing. The front seats have been swopped for a pair of Kirkys.
But I do have the added weight of a NOS bottle and a full 8 point chrome moly cage tagged to go 8.50 in the 1/4.
I didn't realise you believe everything you read, heater core, front sound deading. rear upper seats, and rear speakers are missing. The front seats have been swopped for a pair of Kirkys.
But I do have the added weight of a NOS bottle and a full 8 point chrome moly cage tagged to go 8.50 in the 1/4.
better concentrate that time for you 1/8th mile first
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From: Flitwick UK
Sorry Darrin for the lack of reply, I can only log boost pressure while I'm driving or racing, you have reminded me to contact FJO to see if I can do this with the software I've got.
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From: Flitwick UK
You must remember the first rule of "taking the ****" that you've got to acheive it yourself first
Been there, done it, got the ticket
Been there, done it, got the ticket
some day.......maybe... just maybe you will learn what the MINI is really made for
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From: Flitwick UK
You boys are funny... I wish I had half as much testosterone as either one of you guys....
Ah, to be a teenager again.... such fond memories....
Maybe Jan can sell "RMW Testosterone" in a can or something...
I know... that's what the stroker is....
Ah, to be a teenager again.... such fond memories....
Maybe Jan can sell "RMW Testosterone" in a can or something...
I know... that's what the stroker is....
Intense, here's another Laminova based W2A to add to your wish list.
http://defendersofspeed.com/store/pr...p?id_product=5
http://defendersofspeed.com/store/pr...p?id_product=5
very cool, no pun intended.
Far as I know...
it, and it's predicessor, is the only Laminova core for the Mini on the market....
That is, till someone else makes one!
For what it's worth, the newer case has a lower mass, better thermal properties, and better internal air flow than the Al unit that proceeded it.
Matt
That is, till someone else makes one!
For what it's worth, the newer case has a lower mass, better thermal properties, and better internal air flow than the Al unit that proceeded it.
Matt
it, and it's predicessor, is the only Laminova core for the Mini on the market....
That is, till someone else makes one!
For what it's worth, the newer case has a lower mass, better thermal properties, and better internal air flow than the Al unit that proceeded it.
Matt
That is, till someone else makes one!
For what it's worth, the newer case has a lower mass, better thermal properties, and better internal air flow than the Al unit that proceeded it.
Matt
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From: Utah
It don't think it would be worth it...
I'm of the opinion that it would do little to nothing to provide cooler temps. It looks neat tho
I'm of the opinion that it would do little to nothing to provide cooler temps. It looks neat tho
Last edited by Intense; Oct 5, 2008 at 07:52 PM.
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When someone donates a cut-up hood the first hurdle would be met. It reality, I can't see it making that much difference, maybe the manufacturers have differential data across the cores which would lead us to believe different.
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