you all are about to be blown out of the water

 

This should be interesting. Do tell.

 

enough!!! stop it!!! you're starting to sound like m7. the next thing you'll be saying is that it's "delicious."

 

Will we hear something on Friday in Dallas?
That would be cool...

 

But we're all forgetting or ignoring that the stock location for the IC on the R53 sucks. I mean it really, really blows. So this is why a few years of Subies came with factory water injection, and why a good W2A is a winner on the R53. Top mount with a scoop like what we and the subies use isn't any good for peak performance. There's no getting around that fact.

Matt

 

Are the initials for the new surprise TVS?

 

I appreciate the limitations of our top mounts but the the info I was sharing was just about IC's in general (a-to-a & w-to-a).

 

Given the context of this thread, are we going to be blown into the water 2A market?

 

it's gonna be a price vs performance deal. All the W2As are much more expensive than the A2A solutions going. Heck, at the price point of the W2As out there, one stands a good chance of building all the parts for a Tuls like A2A and having some money left in your pocket.

Anyway, I'm watching with interest here, as I can't wait to see the details of these systems as they unfold....

Matt

 

You hit the nail on the head. The cost of admission is very high indeed.

Longboard

 

here are some data logs of the new system..........

notice the blower temp over 300degF
the pink is ambient and the blue line is your intake temps

enjoy................................

 

here are some more logs

 

master of the obvious question or maybe just confused ..

teal - IC_INLET (aka blower temp)
green - IC_OUTLET (gotta be wrong cause temps are higher than IC_INLET)
black - RPM?

danke

 

black=RPM
dark blue= blower temp
green = after stock intercooler
pink=ambient temp
the RMW SOLUTION ...........light blue = final inlet temp

 

Jan
Those numbers are going to make the new project even better. Nice work again.

 

Does one need to be on Meth to read those....

Pretty colors....weeeeeeeeeee

Weird Shapes.....ahhhhhhhhh

 

the test car was a RMW car with 17% pulley
RMW HEAD/CAM/Race exhaust

this car has dyno'd over 262whp with the stock bottom end

 

More effective A2A set-up?
I had the idea for an exit scoop almost since I got my MINI but never wanted to buy another hood to make one, I was about to scan my sketches of it, but I checked the M7 site for the price on a ram scoop, and I found this, haha. I guess they beat me to it!

http://www.m7tuning.com/parts/produc...roducts_id=130

http://www.tunerschoice.com/xq/aspx/...qx/Product.htm

 

that setup won't even get close to this...............there is NO OTHER SYSTEM on the MINI market that will get you inlet temps like the ones I posted above

btw.... the graphs above were with your STOCK intercooler

 

thanks for the clarification Jan.

wowsers......

some folks brag they cook food in their engine compartment, you got the makings of a fridge there.

 

For the first graph, you're showing intake temps below ambient. What was the water temp? I'd guess this data was from a very hot day when the reseviour had just been filled, or the car just not having been run that long to get everything in equilbrium.

To make this stuff clear to the masses (and me as well) dump it into excel, drop the lines that don't matter, and label the remaining lines with names that make some sense. I couldn't get anything of the second posts without getting a headache! If you're going to take the time to dump it into a word doc, might as well put some text explaining what's going on.

Matt

 

I'll explain this VERY VERY SIMPLE TO YOU............it was a STOCK INTERCOOLER

 

that's all fine and dandy. But you say pink is ambient tems, listed as about 100 degrees. And you say light blue is outlet temps with the W2A, which is below ambient. That begs the question of how that happens.


This isn't directed at you, but these posts sure could benefit from it....

When showing data. Take some time to label the data and provide a semi-detailed explanation of what was measured and how it was performed. Include some description of test conditions, and data aquisition methods.

In the world of peer-review (while this isn't it, stuff here gets picked over for sure), the standard is to provide enough information so that someone who wanted to could replicate the measurement.

While this sounds like a PITA, it takes less time than explaining all the stuff that you'll get asked afterwords....

I get that the stocker shows efficiencies from about 65% to 50%, but the W2A is showing greater than 100% up toll the end of the data log.....

Some other open issues...
1) Was the car being driven, if so at what speed?
2) If it's on a dyno, how was the A2A cooled?

I'm not trying to bust your ***** here... This is, in general, what I expect to see from a good W2A system. It's just I don't know how to interpret this particular data set cause I don't know anything about the test conditions!

Matt

 

this is meth injection on a stock system?

Matt

ps... I liked it better when you wouldn't share anything till you's share everything...

 

looks like your Stanford PhD is starting to pay off

How good will this be when I put it on my NEW W2a?

btw... I am showing the data.........this is much more than anyone else has ever shown