Drivetrain CLUTCH CONCERN
CLUTCH CONCERN
Hey Guys I have and 04 MC Edition S with 38,000 mi on it, today when I was driving I noticed that my Clutch sunked in and could barely get it to go into 1st gear luckily I was pulling into my Mom's.
This might sound stupid but I never checked if the car has a reservoir like on my other 2 cars that are not Mini's so I opened and couldn't find it so I looked at the owners manual and nothing so I called MINI and unbelievable the guy couldn't tell me if it has one or not since the service dept. was close.
Has anyone experienced this and does anyone has any ideas what it could be.
BTW I bought the car used with 12,000mi so I'm not sure when it was originally purchased because of the 4 year warranty issue as I was advice from the guy at the dealer since I dont have the 50000mi.
Any help would be really appreciated.
This might sound stupid but I never checked if the car has a reservoir like on my other 2 cars that are not Mini's so I opened and couldn't find it so I looked at the owners manual and nothing so I called MINI and unbelievable the guy couldn't tell me if it has one or not since the service dept. was close.
Has anyone experienced this and does anyone has any ideas what it could be.
BTW I bought the car used with 12,000mi so I'm not sure when it was originally purchased because of the 4 year warranty issue as I was advice from the guy at the dealer since I dont have the 50000mi.
Any help would be really appreciated.
Last edited by mc40mini; Jun 28, 2008 at 05:18 PM. Reason: mis-typed
To be a bit more helpful
they share the same resevoir with the brakes. Slave cylinders are known to go south more often than anything else. Search on bleeding it, it's got some particulars on how to best do this.
Matt
Matt
Brakes and everything are working fine and with 38,000mi I kind of think its time for a new clutch but I want to make sure.
The brake reservoir is filled and never had a problem in the 2 years Ive owned the car. Does anyone has an idea how much a clucth replacement costs.
The brake reservoir is filled and never had a problem in the 2 years Ive owned the car. Does anyone has an idea how much a clucth replacement costs.
Rich
Pardon my ignorance but what is the Slave and how do I check it since I dont have a Bentley manual I have no idea what to do.
As I mentioned the Brakes are working fine and I figure since bothe share the same reservoir could be something else.
As I mentioned the Brakes are working fine and I figure since bothe share the same reservoir could be something else.
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Check your brake fluid resevoir. Pedal goes to floor? Or 1/2 way?
My clutch slave and master went at 40k. The slave was obviously puked and was dripping brake fluid. Clutch pedal went all the way to the floor. So I replaced it (made special tool, bought pressure bleeder etc.), and only got 1/2 pedal. So then I needed expert advice and took it to an independent shop with MINI experience. The master cyclinder had also gone but there were no symptoms to show it beyond 1/2 clutch pedal.
Parts are relatively cheap, slave and master are about $70 ea. Labor should be around $250 ish depending on your local.
You might look at:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=131915
And
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=132378
IMO I would replace both slave & master at the same time.
My clutch slave and master went at 40k. The slave was obviously puked and was dripping brake fluid. Clutch pedal went all the way to the floor. So I replaced it (made special tool, bought pressure bleeder etc.), and only got 1/2 pedal. So then I needed expert advice and took it to an independent shop with MINI experience. The master cyclinder had also gone but there were no symptoms to show it beyond 1/2 clutch pedal.
Parts are relatively cheap, slave and master are about $70 ea. Labor should be around $250 ish depending on your local.
You might look at:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=131915
And
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=132378
IMO I would replace both slave & master at the same time.
Last edited by fishey72; Jun 29, 2008 at 07:20 AM. Reason: word salad
Actually it sunked in 3/4 of the way in but it happened all the sudden there were no problems it was an instant thing, thats what puzzles me, because when I changed the clutch on other cars you can feel it slipping and some other problems and noises but didnt get this on the MINI.
The clutch goes in enough to get the car started but not enough to get the gears in.
The clutch goes in enough to get the car started but not enough to get the gears in.
Check your brake fluid resevoir. Pedal goes to floor? Or 1/2 way?
My clutch slave and master went at 40k. The slave was obviously puked and was dripping brake fluid. Clutch pedal went all the way to the floor. So I replaced it (made special tool, bought pressure bleeder etc.), and only got 1/2 pedal. So then I needed expert advice and took it to an independent shop with MINI experience. The master cyclinder had also gone but there were no symptoms to show it beyond 1/2 clutch pedal.
Parts are relatively cheap, slave and master are about $70 ea. Labor should be around $250 ish depending on your local.
You might look at:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=131915
And
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=132378
IMO I would replace both slave & master at the same time.
My clutch slave and master went at 40k. The slave was obviously puked and was dripping brake fluid. Clutch pedal went all the way to the floor. So I replaced it (made special tool, bought pressure bleeder etc.), and only got 1/2 pedal. So then I needed expert advice and took it to an independent shop with MINI experience. The master cyclinder had also gone but there were no symptoms to show it beyond 1/2 clutch pedal.
Parts are relatively cheap, slave and master are about $70 ea. Labor should be around $250 ish depending on your local.
You might look at:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=131915
And
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=132378
IMO I would replace both slave & master at the same time.
No special tool needed to do the slave. Just blead it before you bolt it up to the trany using gravity. Dont use the pedal when doing it this way.
Do know that the resevoir feed to the clutch is higher up then the brakes, so you will loose clutch before you loose any brakes. So, do make sure that it is not below 3/4 full.
Do know that the resevoir feed to the clutch is higher up then the brakes, so you will loose clutch before you loose any brakes. So, do make sure that it is not below 3/4 full.
I bow to your superior MINI & mechanical knowledge, but I have never found anything to describe this method. Do you compress the slave before gravity bleeding?
What about the clutch master cylinder, can that also be gravity bleed?
It's true, there's a method Onasled provided me with in a post about 3 months back, do a search for "clutch problems" and you should find it. His method worked for me when the Bentley method wouldn't. If nothing else it's worth a try. Good Luck.
It's best to unbolt it from the trany and let it hang with the bleader at the top. The air will then rise up to the bleader. Just pump the fluid with the piston of the slave. Loosen the bleader. Push in the piston and air will come out with fluid. Put a finger over the bleader before letting it come back out. Do a couple more times and your be set with the slave.
Ahhhhh...this makes much sense. The special tool is just convenient since that slave cylinder is kinda sloppy to compress. It kinda wants to go everywhichway.
The slave is on the drivers side on bottom of engine/trans. You must remove an access panel to get to it (3 bolts and two screws). Pretty simple.
Keep in mind it could be the clutch master cylinder which is on the back of the clutch pedal. Both work together. Often both fail together, or at least that was my experience.
How to tell if one or the other failed without obvious leaks...dunno.
I call the local Autozone and such and they couldnt help since they dont carry these parts so I'm really gonna have to contact the dealer if not the local european car shop that is within walkin distance..
Thanks guys for all the help I'll keep you posted on what happens.
Thanks guys for all the help I'll keep you posted on what happens.
http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/...chqt=byvehicle
That seems like a fair price-$34.35. I've never ordered parts from them yet though.
Jeremy
That seems like a fair price-$34.35. I've never ordered parts from them yet though.
Jeremy




