The Rotrex team was at the street of willow last week for a B (think Fit, and Yaris and the others) class shot against the top tuners in the country. There were turbo cars, Eaton cars and of course the Rotrex car. Unfortunately for the Rotrex team they broke the power steering.

Well the other tuners put down 1:40 type numbers. The driver for the Rotrex team said screw it he came to drive and took the little Fit out without PS. He put down consistent 1:30's . 10 seconds faster then any other team.

Not bad for a centrifugal.

Longboard

 

Was his name "The Stig"

 

Drama queen? (Its 1/4 mile king to you LOL i kid i kid... i had to do it all in good fun)

I will not take the low road and call that slanderous... but it was uncalled for.

I asked you a simple question and gave you the benefit of the doubt. i even apologized in advance if the topic had already been covered.

What is your beef with me?

try not to slip into your old habits, we would all hate to see you get banned again. You are doing too much for the MINI community and we would have for you to loose your voice and your experiance.

IN regards to dynoing... not all of us use the all mighty dynapak

 

my references were for 1/4 tracks and it was stated in my post. The reason why I state 1/4 times is because its much more of a direct comparison. You only have the driver to blame. The variables on a road course are just ridiculous for comparison reasons unless you have spec cars running with the same driver and the only differnce being the aspiration.

But yes, a centrifugal can be fast around a track... just like Audi has proven that diesls can be fast around race tracks too...

 

I guess 3 smiley faces don't mean jack to you....
good grief
and for being banned.... for what?

 

That same 90% who argue about cupholders and car names. Forgive me for not worrying about them

 

I think I agree with you on this point. Looks like a fun track toy but for a daily driver or the canyons perhaps not so good.

 

Wow Jan, great numbers! Can't wait to see what comes out with larger injectors.
Your killing me with all this power your making. Ever since you tuned my car, I've been having the hardest time keeping my addiction at bay.

 

Wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The addiction will only get worse as time goes by. More good toys on the way I hear. I feel your pain.

 

The only way I could convince to you that it is awesome on the street or the canyon would be for you to drive the car.

When we first started running it on the street I was sceptical. Hell I really think there were times that Jan just didn't believe in this project. But now he is glad he kept pushing and I now would recommend this set up to any one on that want a really fun fast street car.

The wife and I have been driving around all day getting new plants for the back yard. I kept watching to see how often I was below 3k. Well hardly ever unless I was pulling away from a light. Point being the car has power to burn at least 90% of the time on the street.

The Rotrex guys when we tell them about guys saying it's useless below X. They have seen the same BS on other boards about the other cars they are making kits for. It all goes away once people start driving.

The Rotrex works because it is a combination of the TQ and HP pulling together at the same pace that makes it all work. Like I said, you would to try it to understand.

Longboard

 

Just worry about how much you're smiling these days Longboard.

Good luck with the new injectors and tune Monday!

Jeremy

 

so wait, when do I get to drive it?

 

What dyno reads flywheel HP... The only way to measure HP on a car short of unbolting the motor and bolting that up to a dyno is to measure it at the wheels. You can "Guess" the flywheel HP through drivetrain losses, but there isn't a dyno out there that can get it spot on.

Like almost every other dyno out there the "Flywheel HP" part assumes that you plug in some correction factor to calculate it. Since the correction factor is 1.00, it multiplies the HP by 1, which means it's unchanged.

 

no it was not me i was at home all day! polishing my helmet...

 

because you don't speak

 

Isellem actually knows his stuff, it was an honest question by him. No need to make funny faces at him!

I'm sure he knows how a dyno works lol, he was making 230+ to the wheels way back in the early days when 200 was "unpossible" to make and unheard of. He knows more than you think!

PS. Hi Justin.

 

not true.


Many dynos in Europe are set to read at flywheel horsepower. Also, the screen shot state FLYWHEEL HORSEPOWER. Its a totally legitimate question

 

Not to nit pick, but those dynos in Europe "read" wheel horsepower and automatically/magically display "flywheel" figures on their graphs. They do this by figuring in some hypothetical driveline loss. He was correct on this. The only way to get true flywheel power is to put the engine on an engine dyno (which requires removing the block).

 

wooooow !! just curious... what's your car weigh these days? your power to weight must be pretty special .

 

STILL OWES ME A RIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!
IM KINDA UPSET ABOUT THIS.....

 

roflmao....

it's an asinine question as he knows I have campaigned to have the standard of wheel hp from when I was banned for putting pressure on vendors to show real testing of equipment and not just posting here is a 280hp kit

those 280hp kits they spoke about made 180whp back in the day....
so yes... I think it isn't relevant here

 

well... quit being upset... your cam is in

 

Relax relax relax. It isn't done yet .

If you can't wait you can stop by my work tomorrow and we can go for a ride. I work in Irvine. PM me if you want to go tomorrow.

Longboard

 

Many Dyno's in Europe APPROXIMATE flywheel HP (And say flywheel HP). Unless you're bolting a dyno up to the flywheel of the car it's IMPOSSIBLE to measure the EXACT flywheel HP. I explained that in my post...

 

You are correct... but i am pretty sure we are talking about the same thing.

Some dynos read Flywheel horsepower on there graph as stated by someone before, and as I know. these dynos assign a correction factor from whp to Flywheel hp. RMWS dynographs STATE FLYWHEEL HORSEPOWER at the top of the chart. I asked him and apologized to him in adavance if the topic was already covered, but is his dyno charts reading in flywheel or whp?

I was meerly asking Jan if his dyno was correcting for flywheel horsepower or not, in so many words.

What is so difficult to understand about that?

It is a completely and totally logical question to ask. Many of you should have asked this question before, and I assumed you did. That is why I apologized if this topic had already been covered.