Still gonna ignore this thread? I really wanna see those numbers to prove my friends its True!!!!

Jack

 

Well a long time ago, I went to a Gintani Dyno day at their old shop and I saw a MINI get 240 whp on their dyno. That same car almost 2 years later finally broke the 200 whp barrier, this time for real, thanks to some good tuning and great parts. So yeah, I believe that they had a car get 300 whp on their dyno

 

300 reliable HP?

 

Unfortunately we can't always get what we want, when we want it. We will just have to be patient. This was made very clear before this thread was started. There is nothing we can say or do to change Gintani's position at this time. Gintani is not the first vendor (NAM or anywhere) to keep people waiting. When they are ready, I'm sure they'll post a vendor announcement. Until then, no "Gintani questions" will be answered (only speculation). So this thread has reached a dead end.

 

Johan wanna reply now?

 

I've always been replying

Thanks for the inquiry, but I don't have any dyno sheets yet, stay tuned

And just so you know, you're wrong again! I have never claimed 300WHP out of MY mini

 

why dont you have dyno sheets?

 

Same reason I don't. Because it isn't finished yet. Once it is I'm sure Johan will share.

Longboard

 

Three simple sentences and a whole ton of reason. Thank you Longboard.

mb

 

+1

 

I can see not posting any dynos yet, but come on, they, Gintani, come into NAM, boosting about what they have done, and then provide no tangible info. on what they have done. Except with their W/A IC. This is in stark contrast as to what RMW has done, keeping us informed of projects, showing us new parts, telling us what goes into these new parts and projects and does show ongoing dyno graphs. I heard they have a head, but have found no info. on it. Just my .02

 

I see your point JIMINNI. I feel entitled to information as well, especially if I'm in the market for a certain product or service. At some point, though, it becomes clear when someone's interested genuinely (they'd call, email or do something along with start a post) and when someone's trying to make a point (even if it is valid, which it probably is in this case).

I don't follow all of the threads, but Longboard makes a good point above. He's in the process of doing a pretty groundbreaking build and hasn't posted a dyno yet (maybe there are "progress" dynos in the thread - I don't know). There has been talk of the success of the end product, but it doesn't seem like we're going to get specific info. until it's finished. Since RMW (and customers) have been so forthcoming in the past, we give them a pass for this, as well we should. Gintani comes in here and ruffles some feathers, make some enemies, and we try to get information out of them even if it's premature.

Something tells me that even if they had posted dynos to this point, many people would find some fault with that here, too. I just haven't witnessed many people who have chosen their battle lines come back across and give respect when it's deserved.

I tried to read the Gintani threads as objectively as I could when they started posting. If you go back and look, they were as responsible for the outcome as anyone else. Their first posts had nothing to do with RMW, but they did react poorly when the issue came up.

Now in response to the above, someone might say "AH - but you're a DMH customer!" And to that, well, all I can say is that if you think we all take this stuff so seriously, then that's a little sad if you ask me.

And that brings me back to Longboard's point - he has every reason to be true blue RMW (hey that rhymes!), yet he's involved in a build and understands it takes time. I think we can all be objective like this.

So I guess if you're looking for info because you're a prospective customer, you'll have to wait until the car is finished, as you will with the kit that's going on Longboard's car.

mb

 

we posted the initial dyno of the Rotrex when it made 250whp and 195tq with the stock intercooler and stock 380cc injectors

 

That is very helpful for the people trying to see the journey of the build - so does it boil down to us expecting this from everyone now? Shame on you RMW!

I stand corrected where I said RMW didn't post initial dynos.

mb

 

we took the initial questions of everyone talking about the differences instead of hiding as we knew this would be an issue with the system. It is about night and day different than the eaton. It's not for everyone but for the way we are building it , it should work better on the track than the eaton. Initial testing shows this to be true. But until all the info is in we will not make that statement.

 

First, I apologize that I edited your quote, hope that is ok? I understand your point also I always try to be objective on vendors threads.......even Palo Ubers....... I really like their spoiler lip .... But I hope one day to be a customer for more mods like a big valve head and such. But right now i'm kinda just stirring the pot.....sorry PGT, I know your the chief pot stirrer .

 

As bob marley once said "Stir it up"

JACK

 

No worries.

Fair enough.

I think I'll be in this market someday as well. Although I also thought I was buying a suspension this year. Grad school needs to cost less!

mb

 

the more the merrier NAM is too big a pot for me to stir alone

 

I didn't say it broke 300whp, I said 200 whp.