Hey all. I found this thing on Burger Tuning, a link from the NAM vendor directory. I think its for a 335i. Anyone know if this will work on a MINI? Anyone have one? I sounds too good to be true. Please let me know!

http://www.burgertuning.com/products.html

Well, that product seem to be of the standard "unqualified, unexplained, incredible gain" variety. I won't say those results are not possible off the bat, but without some explanation they're completely meaningless. Seems unlikely though.

When something seems too good to be true...

- Matt

Terry is working on a piggyback for the R56. He has very good products for the 335i.

I think thats the box that my buddy is running in his 335. With that and a pulled BPV hose..his car is crazy fast.

for $15 bucks; what are you out really? i say go for it if you live in a cool area, even if you don't get the gain you only spent 15 so no biggy.

He pulled the hose to his turbo bypass valve? The one that controls it's opening and closing?

From a friend on the 335i boards, I think I have heard that this might be just some resistors/what-not that fools the ECU into running more boost and can be purchased from Radioshack and assembled on your own. I don't know if it is this particular companies product, but a product very similar in use. Maybe it is Vinshu, but whatever - I don't think I'd want to trick the ECU into running more boost without the fuel map being corrected properly for that.

Amen. Fooling the computer into running more boost is basically removing any type of boost control that is there to keep your engine or turbos in one peice in the event you get a bad tank of gas, or drive through Phoenix in July.

With some Home Depot hardware, I did something similiar to this on a saab 9000 when I was in college, and while it was fun for a while, it was a bit annoying hitting the overboost feature (fuel cutoff), plus I think I may have eventually done something to the car in the long run, because the car has always been kinda... "slow" since then.

"Even under these conditions it is still possible for the hot pill to induce a check engine light, limp code, or engine stumble, so care should be taken when used."

Sure doesn't sound reassuring, does it? This product sounds like the ones available for other cars which fool the engine's computer into thinking it's always 47 degrees or some such cool temp to allow the computer to provide maximum timing, hence more power. With likely detonation issues, check engine lights, and especially the dangers of damaging a boosted engine, I think I would stay away from these " getting something for nothing" items.

$15 is cheap, but if i does $16 worth of damage to the car its not worth it. I agree that the claim is of the incredible type. If your hypotheses are correct, I would have to decline such an item. Reprogramming the car is a much different story than tricking it. Thanks for all your responses.

even if it was a free mod, fooling the ecu into doing anything with the boost is not a good idea. I'm not saying the mod doens't work, it might work great. But the failsafes are gone.